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How Miami Dolphins defensive end spot stacks up, what that means for Dion Jordan

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Post by rightchea Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:58 pm

It sounds like Dion Jordan will be in Miami through camp

Armando Salguero wrote:So the Dolphins re-signed Andre Branch, traded with the Los Angeles Rams for Williams Hayes and became reconciled to the fact it must (and almost certainly will) draft a defensive end early in the April NFL draft.

So the 2017 defensive end corps will likely be Wake, Branch, Hayes, the rookie draft pick, and Fede or Warmsley or both.

Who are we missing?

Oh, yes, Dion Jordan.

He is not going to be on the Dolphins when they begin the 2017 regular season. Multiple people are telling me that while the former first-round pick remains on the roster, he is not in the plans.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article139138938.html#storylink=cpy

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Post by JMP Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:14 am

Let's hope this article is true and Jordan is FINALLY the fuck off this team. cheers

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Post by Degarmo Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:15 pm

Such a high pick completely wasted. Another gift from Jeff Ireland.

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Post by Birdmond Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:20 pm

Degarmo wrote:Such a high pick completely wasted. Another gift from Jeff Ireland.

But that was one of the worst draft classes ever.

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Post by JMP Sun Mar 19, 2017 1:27 am

Birdmond wrote:
Degarmo wrote:Such a high pick completely wasted.  Another gift from Jeff Ireland.

But that was one of the worst draft classes ever.  

One of the worst draft classes ever...and we traded up to #3 to draft a "pass rusher" that wasn't even an effective pass rusher in college.  Ugh. Worst. Pick. Ever.  No



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Post by Birdmond Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:27 am

JMP wrote:
Birdmond wrote:
Degarmo wrote:Such a high pick completely wasted.  Another gift from Jeff Ireland.

But that was one of the worst draft classes ever.  

One of the worst draft classes ever...and we traded up to #3 to draft a "pass rusher" that wasn't even an effective pass rusher in college. Ugh. Worst. Pick. Ever. No

Worst. Pick. Ever.

I think someone pointed out that only the Detroit Lions received a passing grade in the 2013 draft.

: Round 1 – Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU (5);
Round 2 – Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State (36);
Round 3 – Larry Warford, G, Kentucky (65);
Round 4 – Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina (132);
Round 5 – Sam Martin, P, Appalachian State (165);
Round 6 – Corey Fuller, WR, Virginia Tech (171);
Round 6 – Theo Riddick, RB, Notre Dame (199);
Round 7 – Michael Williams, TE, Alabama (211); Round 7 – Brandon Hepburn, ILB, Florida A&M (245)

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Post by HalCHorn Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:01 pm

Among Miami Dolphins' draft classes, it will likely be in the bottom 4 of all time before all is said and done. 2006 has to be our worst ever, with the 1999 and 1984 also right down there.

Trading up for Dion Jordan was likely just as bad as trading up for Jackie Shipp, though it's a close call. Both drafts were kinda lacking in Miami's needs.

Bud Brown was about the best pick in 1984, Jelani Jenkins in 2013.

I guess 1995 would round out the bottom 5, but that draft would have looked much better if Shula had had enough sense to hold onto Pete Mitchell and JJ would have had enough sense to hold onto Norman Hand. The other four drafts were devoid of players even that good.

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Post by white1 Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:39 pm

The details in this article pain a grim picture.

Dude can barely even run? As Armando says, two knee surgeries while NOT playing football, how does this happen?

Then the dark mystery around "experienced another issue not related to football" and the source won't go any further. Why is he still on the roster is the only question remaining.

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Post by Birdmond Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:27 am

Signing Zack Brown today and cutting Misi and Jordan would bring back obnoxiously optimistic Birdmond.

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Mar 21, 2017 7:57 am

Birdmond wrote:Signing Zack Brown today and cutting Misi and Jordan would bring back obnoxiously optimistic Birdmond.

I don't find your optimism obnoxious, I find it amusing Smile

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Post by Birdmond Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:01 am

DolFan 316 wrote:
Birdmond wrote:Signing Zack Brown today and cutting Misi and Jordan would bring back obnoxiously optimistic Birdmond.

I don't find your optimism obnoxious, I find it amusing Smile

I knew that one get you to post.

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Post by JMP Tue Mar 21, 2017 9:19 am

I can't understand why the Phins are continuing to look at LBs that have played in a 3-4 and are best suited for weak side. First Timmons, now Brown. Along with Alonso, we're going to have 3 weakside LBs and no true MLB or SLB...doesn't make sense to me. Maybe they'll put Brown at WLB, Alonso at MLB and Timmons at SLB??? Not a fan of any plan that keeps Alonso at MLB, but it is what it is.

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Post by rightchea Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:01 pm

Maybe they are going to switch it up. Were the broncos running a 3-4 setup

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Post by JMP Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:51 pm

rightchea wrote:Maybe they are going to switch it up. Were the broncos running a 3-4 setup

The Phins specifically said after the season that they are sticking with a 4-3, and they promoted Burke to DC so they can keep the same defense. Unless Gase is lying, we're going to run the same defense we ran in year one. I actually hate this defensive scheme and would love to switch to a 3-4, but as long as Gase is here that isn't happening.

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Post by scotgif Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:54 pm

I still think a trio of Kiko, Timmons and Brown would be light years better than the jabronis they rolled out last year. I still would love to see an impact LB taken in the draft. Not the biggest Kiko fan, but on the weak side, he would be better. I think Brown has played middle before, so hopefully, he would take over that spot. Oh yeah, cut Misi and Jordan.
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Post by rightchea Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:42 pm

From what it sounds like drafting a lb isn't going to happen or they will be a low pick

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Post by JMP Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:08 pm

After the money Kiko just got, you can forget about Brown. You can probably forget about drafting a LB high too, since the Phins use just two LBs most of the time and Kiko and Timmons are here for at least the next two years.

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Post by rightchea Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:04 am

I wouldn't actually give up on drafting a MLB since there has to be someone average or good to back them up.

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Post by finfanatic Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:56 am

Props to Bird for playing DF316 like a Nintendo...or is it a Wii?? Laughing

I told you all, I would be shocked if they draft a LB. It would have to be a Reuben Foster in a bongmask kind of thing!

I agree with JMP, the defensive scheme seems to think LBs are for helping out in zone coverage and against the run, to make the RB cutback.

One must only assume that is why the DCs have absolutely LOVED Misi.

It almost seems like they DO NOT WANT the Defense to have a leader? We knew Grandpa Queasy Joe Philbin abhorred the thought of having any sort of leadership for the team.

The Phins are MISSING a unifying focal point for the team. Gas is giving them some of that, but the team needs a player to take on that role, and it is not going to be Tanneyhill IMO.
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Post by Birdmond Wed Mar 22, 2017 7:42 am

scotgif wrote:I still think a trio of Kiko, Timmons and Brown would be light years better than the jabronis they rolled out last year. I still would love to see an impact LB taken in the draft. Not the biggest Kiko fan, but on the weak side, he would be better. I think Brown has played middle before, so hopefully, he would take over that spot. Oh yeah, cut Misi and Jordan.

Completely agree and as I said earlier, cut Misi and Jordan and you can easily afford Brown.

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Post by rightchea Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:50 am

Not sure what they waiting for with Jordan not like he going to contribute.

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Post by JMP Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:09 am

We're not going to have three high-priced LBs in what is essentially a 2-LB system.  IMO we're going to roll with Alonso and Timmons, and low-level backups.  Probably Alonso at MLB, and Timmons and Hewitt at the OLB spots, with Timmons and Alonso usually staying on the field for all 3 downs. Misi will probably be in the mix too. Maybe we'll draft a LB in the 5th or something like that, but IMO nothing early.  I think it's a huge mistake, but it is what it is.

As for Jordan, I have no idea why he's still on the roster. Just end it already - he's a total waste.

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Post by mercury22nathan Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:32 am

Birdmond wrote:...cut Misi and Jordan...

gotta say i agree...

I am committed to not having an injury-prone player coming off a neck surgery, for God’s sake, on the roster at any price. Misi would have to pay me to be on my team because I don’t care how professional he is, how good for the locker room he is, what a thumper he is, how cheap he is. I care that his history screams that he’s going to be hurt at some point in 2017 because he was hurt in 2016. And 2015. And 2014.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article140028413.html

but i do find it ironic that we all feel this way about Misi, yet...

Pouncey has missed 17 games due to injury in the last three years. He hasn’t played all 16 games since 2012.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article139629623.html

...Pouncey seems like the same situation to me.

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Post by white1 Thu Mar 23, 2017 1:39 am

Difference is Pouncey is elite when healthy.

Misi is average when healthy
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Post by Degarmo Thu Mar 23, 2017 2:50 pm

Misi and Pouncey are equally talented when they are on the bench.

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