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Post by scotgif Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:15 pm

https://phinphanatic.com/2017/09/17/breaking-lawrence-timmons-will-not-play-dolphins-today/

As if our LB depth is not lacking as it is, now it looks like Lawrence Timmons has left the team. They know where he is, but supposedly something "angered him" and he left the team. Great, just great. Well. at least we have Malauga.....oh yeah, he's hurt. Ok, how bout Jelani Jenkins.....Oh yeah he already got picked up. Wow. great way to start the season.
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Post by Umix10 Sun Sep 17, 2017 1:58 pm

I don't know what might be going on but i do know that when you get paid a ridiculous amount to play a game, IDGAF what your personal issue is!!!!!!!!!

Recap - We sign a veteran LB in the off season who is an upgrade over what we had. We use a 2nd round pick on McMillan, We sign Mauluga who IMHO, didn't think he would ever play Football again(evident by his extreme conditioning or lack there of). McMillan goes down, we have a chance to get Jenkins but we stick with Maulunga.

I don't think Jenkins would be better then Timmons or Alonso but he was certainly available.
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Post by CarsonChris Sun Sep 17, 2017 2:46 pm

Breaking news for fantasy owners, start any TE against Dolphins D for max points!

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Post by white1 Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:05 pm

Classic. WTF our taste in getting vet QBs
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Post by white1 Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:08 pm

LBs. Sorry. Drunk.
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Post by DolFan 316 Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:20 pm

Fins just won without Timmons. Cut him. Or better yet, glue his ass to the bench the rest for the season so he doesn't go running to the Pats and become an All-Pro model citizen suddenly.

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Post by Birdmond Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:43 am

His salary is pretty much all guaranteed but since he failed to show does this change things contractually?

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:39 am

Birdmond wrote:His salary is pretty much all guaranteed but since he failed to show does this change things contractually?

I was wondering the same thing. I'm not sure if the Phins can void the deal, but if not he's pretty much impossible to cut this year.

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:40 am

Oh, and I just heard that Timmons probably won't play next week either. WTF????

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Post by rightchea Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:42 pm

sounds like he is having mental issues. he might have CTE

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:42 pm

Gase is supposedly going to address the media at 3:00 today. I'm curious to see if he actually tells us what happened or if he just gives a vague half-explanation.

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:22 pm

Listening to Gase's press conference and he essentially said nothing about the Timmons story. He basically said he knows nothing and doesn't even know if Timmons is in the building.

I guess the team stance is to let this issue fester and become a bigger story than maybe it needs to be. Nice.

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:51 pm

This made me laugh:

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Gase said he hasn't talked to Timmons, has no idea if he's in the building and has no update on his status or if will play next week.
3:04 PM - Sep 18, 2017

I get the "coachspeak" aspect and not wanting to say anything, but all this does is make Gase look like a clueless idiot.

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:54 pm

Now there are reports that Timmons visted a Steelers' practice last week. If that's true...WTF??? If we hadn't signed him to that insane contract, I'd cut his ass right the fuck now. Hopefully we can prove breach of contract or something and avoid the $11 million cap hit. Fucking stupid contract to give an older declining player. No

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Post by CarsonChris Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:12 pm

Linebackers are so bad in Miami Timmons went back to Pittsburgh and begged for his job back

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Post by DolFan 316 Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:55 pm

So NFL players can just up and leave the team now with no consequences whatsoever?!?! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Even I, the Potentate Of pessimism, never thought things would get THIS bad. Is Timmons young enough to be a millennial? The only thing that could be worse is if this starts a trend of players walking out whenever they feel like it and saying it's because the owners are racist, or something. A part of me still thinks that's the real reason this happened. Personal issue, my ass Rolling Eyes

And yes, it does look like Gase has completely lost control of the team. It also makes the other players look like they actually support this if none of them say anything about it except "I hope he's well" or whatever. Even The Quitter didn't wait until the games started to go rogue.

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Post by JMP Mon Sep 18, 2017 7:57 pm

If Gase had just said "We can't talk about the Timmons situation right now, but we're working on it" I'd feel much better than the "I don't know anything" bullshit.

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Post by DolFan 316 Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:04 pm

JMP wrote:If Gase had just said "We can't talk about the Timmons situation right now, but we're working on it" I'd feel much better than the "I don't know anything" bullshit.  

Yeah, that was the wrong thing to say and always is when you're the person in charge.

HOWEVER...I used my uncanny ability to read between the lines that I've had since I was 6 (I was at a high school reading level in second grade, seriously) to discern that Gase is just as disgusted by Timmons going rogue as we are, and that punishment will be a' coming. As it should. Under no circumstances can one player be allowed to singlehandedly hijack a team. EVER. I also heard that Timmons was stopped at the airport trying to get a flight out to PA Shocked Dude was literally running away like a wayward child. Sure is strange that he starts 101 straight games for the Steelers with no problems whatsoever, than all of a sudden develops mental issues on another team. Also, it's 2017. People now have the means to communicate with anybody anytime from anywhere, and yet Timmons was somehow unable to do this? Unwilling is more like it.

I say leave him behind on the Jets trip. He can visit his baby or see a shrink or do whatever the hell he wants. I'd also leave him behind on the London trip too. Can you imagine him trying to flee the team from halfway around the world?

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Post by Degarmo Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:14 am

When in doubt, become Bill Bellichick. Hate him or not, that guy rarely gives you an ounce of reason to think he's not in control.

"So, Coach Gase, what's up with this Timmons character?"

"We're gathering information right now, and we have top men on it."

"But coach . . ."

"TOP men."

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Post by JMP Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:10 pm

Changed the title of the thread to reflect the breaking news.  Here is the one-sentence press release from the Phins:

The Miami Dolphins today announced they have suspended linebacker Lawrence Timmons indefinitely.

No details or explanations, but the word "indefinitely" makes me think Timmons may not play any time soon - if at all.  Pure speculation, but my guess is the Phins are waiting to see if they can release him without taking an $11 million cap hit.

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Post by rightchea Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:29 pm

From what it sounds like Miami wont get hit with it because he was suspended also get the guarantee money back as well.

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Post by white1 Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:39 pm

Good. Whatever situation he is facing, the way he handled it is bush league. I'm totally in support of suspending indefinitely, then trying to recoup the money he was initially guaranteed.

Probably wouldn't have worked out for us anyways.

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Sep 19, 2017 6:53 pm

white1 wrote:Good.  Whatever situation he is facing, the way he handled it is bush league.  I'm totally in support of suspending indefinitely, then trying to recoup the money he was initially guaranteed.

Probably wouldn't have worked out for us anyways.

Fleeing to the airport without bothering to tell anyone, and then refusing to explain why afterwards while pretending it was because of his family somehow is, as the kiddies say these days, not a good look.

Looks like Gase had the same reasoning I did about this. You've got two more road games coming up, Timmons already bolted once, if he really does have issues then now's the perfect time to sort them out. Kinda hard to run away once the team's already in London. Anybody with even the most rudimentary knowledge of human nature knows that once someone tries something once and gets away with it, that person will keep right on doing it over and over until there are consequences. It never fails. Timmons HAD to be punished somehow, regardless of what modern far left psychobabble says.

I have just one question though. I could've sworn the max amount any player could be suspended was 4 games, as per the CBA. Did Timmons leaving somehow void that?

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Post by Birdmond Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:18 pm

DolFan 316 wrote:
white1 wrote:Good.  Whatever situation he is facing, the way he handled it is bush league.  I'm totally in support of suspending indefinitely, then trying to recoup the money he was initially guaranteed.

Probably wouldn't have worked out for us anyways.

Fleeing to the airport without bothering to tell anyone, and then refusing to explain why afterwards while pretending it was because of his family somehow is, as the kiddies say these days, not a good look.

Looks like Gase had the same reasoning I did about this. You've got two more road games coming up, Timmons already bolted once, if he really does have issues then now's the perfect time to sort them out. Kinda hard to run away once the team's already in London. Anybody with even the most rudimentary knowledge of human nature knows that once someone tries something once and gets away with it, that person will keep right on doing it over and over until there are consequences. It never fails. Timmons HAD to be punished somehow, regardless of what modern far left psychobabble says.

I have just one question though. I could've sworn the max amount any player could be suspended was 4 games, as per the CBA. Did Timmons leaving somehow void that?

But the bizarre thing is he's been a model citizen for 12 years. Not excusing what he did but it just seems so weird. Pussy had to be involved.

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:44 pm

Birdmond wrote:But the bizarre thing is he's been a model citizen for 12 years.  Not excusing what he did but it just seems so weird.   Pussy had to be involved.  

Nah, otherwise we'd be hearing about at least one player doing this every week.

Maybe it was Belichick's mind control ray again. You know, the one that causes teams to go full retard late in close games VS the Pats and do things a five year old playing Madden would consider dumb. Or maybe Timmons was watching one of the far left "news" shows and suddenly became convinced Gase was racist. Or maybe, just maybe, this is some sort of poorly thought-out, passive-aggressive plot to get cut so he can join another team. My money would be on that one TBH. Dude spends a week in Cali and suddenly his family becomes a severe issue Saturday night? My ass Rolling Eyes If his baby or the mom was at death's door we'd know about it by now.

It literally doesn't matter what the explanation is at this point though, there was literally no good reason (or reason at all) for Timmons to do this. Suspend him as long as he's allowed to be suspended and then make him inactive for every game. Don't reward him by cutting him and letting him sign with the Pats or whoever else he wants.

The only way Gase messed this up was with his initial statements, and I've decided to give him a pass on that since he was caught completely off guard and I highly doubt any of us would've done any better. Other than that, he's handling this exactly the right way.

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