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Dave Hyde: For Dolphins to improve, Ryan Tannehill must be better

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Post by JMP Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:31 am

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-hyde-dolphins-ryan-tannehill-1001-20150930-column.html

He isn't the problem in this offense. The offensive line is the problem. The lack of a running game is the problem. The receivers who drop crucial passes are the problem.

But quarterbacks have to be the solution in the NFL, even when they aren't the problem. Tannehill has to protect the line, even if it can't protect him. He has to see the blitzes better this week against the Jets than he did against the Bills.

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Tannehill isn't Brady. It's unfair to suggest he should be. You still expect a NFL quarterback in his fourth season to do more than Tannehill has in an uneven September.

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Tannehill's offense has three first downs in the telltale first quarters of games this year. The offenses of Washington's Kirk Cousins, Jacksonville's Blake Bortles and Buffalo's Tyrod Taylor have 21 first downs in that same quarter against the Dolphins.

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The Dolphins offense averages 14.7 points this year. That's the lowest in the league. Everyone keeps bringing up Ndamukong Suh and the defense. They have their issues. This offense is the bigger problem so far.

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Tannehill is supposed to be more valuable in his position than his coach, Joe Philbin. Now he goes to London and must, in some form, prove that by saving Philbin and everyone else in the franchise from real trouble.

You can like Tannehill's progress, as I have, from the moment he stepped on the Dolphins campus. But it's Year Four. For this season to get better, Tannehill has to be better than he's been.

Major props to Hyde for being critical of Tannehill, something that not enough Dolfans and Dolphins media are willing to do.

As I said yesterday, it is tough to judge Tannehill because the coaching staff and OL are letting him down every week. But Hyde is right: a star QB needs to make the players around him better, and sometimes he needs to put the team on his back and lead them to victory at any cost.

Tannehill is a good QB, for the most part. He has no ability to recognize or feel pressure, and he still struggles with ball placement. But overall, I think he's got the tools to be successful - maybe not Super Bowl successful, but certainly better than he's shown. The problem is, as I see it, that he has the personality of his head coach - he's quiet, he's passive, he reacts instead of taking control. This is not a field general - at all. Add a coaching staff that refuses to let their QB make changes at the line, and has no idea how to call a game, and we have what we have.

When things go bad, Tannehill folds. I don't see the make-up of a franchise QB. I remember seeing Dan Marino literally will his team to victories, countless times...guys played their asses off for him, leaving nothing on the field. I don't expect Tannehill to be Marino, but he clearly doesn't have the leadership ability that the greats have.

Hyde has it right - Tannehill needs to be a solution for this team, and he simply needs to be better.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:09 pm

The reason I think that Tannehill has the ability to be pretty damned good, even Super Bowl good, is that he's never had a decent coach, and he's still as good as he is. By never, I mean from college to today. He's had nothing special at all coaching him. He's got the tools and the toughness and I think he can be damn good.

He's not good enough right now, that's for sure. I think he can be, and quickly, with better coaching.

That said, I think the entire team is a 10-win team with good coaching, because I think a good coach could fix this offensive line well enough to give his quarterback time enough to throw the ball late in games, as opposed to the magic traffic cone act the line is doing in the fourth quarters of games this season.

This isn't something people agree on, but Tannehill is a pretty good QB in the 10-20 yard range, yet Shithead Lazor's offense is predicated on the -1 to 3-yard passes. No one is going to succeed in that offense without a good running game, which as I mentioned elsewhere is actually what this offense is supposed to have to function at all. Bill Lazor said as much, and many times. So, we have a OC who is terrified to run the ball in an offense that is predicated on play action and misdirection set up by the run. Great. This is the result of that, terrible offense.

We have a QB that is very good on the move, can run, is good between 10-20 yards, particularly in the middle of the field (because most of his sideline throws are usually rushed) but is never used to his strengths at all. We also have a QB that has had the masterminds of Sherman and Lazor as his offensive coaches. I'd love to see what Tannehill could do with a guy like Harbaugh or Arians, or . . . well, there's a list out there of coaches that could do much better with the talent. Hell, as much as I loathe Shannahan, he's a damn fine candidate for a guy like Tannehill.

Once again, however, everyone on this team is a bag of shit right now. The team is lost, the players aren't trying as hard as they could, and it's easy for all to see.

I think Tannehill could be Marino right now, and we'd still be 1-2 because Marino would be getting pounded just like Tannehill. Marino didn't throw in 2.0 seconds. He needed a clean pocket, and although he was one of the best slide-step QBs in history, when pressure is coming from EVERYWHERE, Marino was not effective. Nor is Tom Brady.

I'm not saying Tannehill is a hall of famer or anything, because right now he's not. I just think that we have a very good QB in the making if they get some quality in here, because we haven't had a quality coaching staff in a long, long time.

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Post by JMP Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:56 pm

I actually agree with most of that, Degarmo, but I just feel like people are constantly making excuses for Tannehill. It's time for him to step up and be more than just another player on the team. He needs to be the heart and soul of this team, and right now he needs to get angry and put this team on his back. I don't know if he has it in him, but now is the time. It's not enough to compile (mostly) good stats...it's time to start doing more. Obviously, he is surrounded by crap - but he needs to rise above.

What I'd love to see is an all-out mutiny, with Tannehill ignoring Lazor and actually changing plays on his own, getting us out of these stupid bubble screens behind the line of scrimmage on 3rd and 5. Obviously that will never happen, but hopefully the next coaching staff will take the training wheels off Tannehill and give him real responsibility so we can finally see what we really have in him. But we'll never know with this garbage coaching staff.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:11 pm

There's the issue we all have though, right?

I don't know if anyone of us believes that, as tough as he is, Tannehill is that kind of a guy to lead a mutiny. I want him to be, but me wanting him to be that kind of a leader is nothing. He has to do it.

That is a huge thing to do, though, because if it doesn't work, and immediately, you're blackballed from the league and you're done.

That's why I think the only solution is to get a better coach, a good coach, hell an excellent coach. It's rare to see someone survive a mutiny nowadays. I hope it happens, and I hope he does it, but I don't see gunslinger in Ryan Tannehill, at least not yet. It's time to put on the big-boy pants, or fade away into just another adequate player.

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Post by DolFan 316 Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:05 pm

I'm not comparing Tannehill to Brady. But is it okay if I compare him to Luck? You know,m the QB this team *could've* had if they hadn't suddenly started trying in midseason out of pure spite?

Luck is on a team with a roster worse than this one, and that hasn't stopped him from dragging the rest of those bums kicking and screaming to 11 wins a season. Now maybe you can argue that he wouldn't have that kind of success in the AFC East. But even if that's true Luck has won multiple playoff games, including one where his team was down by 28 or whatever it was.

In life some guys are natural winners and some are just competent, decent, okay, good enough for an employer to get by with. Luck's the former and Tannehill is clearly the latter. It's not that he's horrible, it's that he's merely above average when greatness is needed and even required. IMO being an NFL QB isn;t even his true calling, he probably WOULD be great if he was in another profession. Like, for example, working at an investment firm or being a doctor. Football's a complete waste of Tannehill's strengths as a human being, and at this point I wouldn't even mind if he realized that as early as this offseason. Not because I "hate" him or think he's a complete bum, no, totally the opposite. At this point it would literally be in his best interests on so many levels to walk away from this circus before he can't walk, period.

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