Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by Birdmond on Mon May 02, 2016 7:30 am

My biggest disappointment from this years draft is not replacing Earl Mitchell and not getting a G/C who can replace Pouncey. The good news is with all the rookie DT's there has to be a veteran cut who's better than Mitchell.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by JMP on Mon May 02, 2016 9:05 am

Birdmond wrote:My biggest disappointment from this years draft is not replacing Earl Mitchell and not getting a G/C who can replace Pouncey.   The good news is with all the rookie DT's there has to be a veteran cut who's better than Mitchell.  

Yeah, I thought this was a strong draft for both DT and interior OL. Very surprised the Phins didn't take players at those positions.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by finfanatic on Mon May 02, 2016 12:24 pm

The players MAY work out (all of them are 50/50 anyway) , which some will see as a sure sign of success, but from a "Working the Draft" perspective, the Phins got punked by every other team on every trade they made IMO.

It shows a definite sign of not knowing how to maximize the draft IMHO. And that is one of the problems the Phins have had for decades now.

Trading away picks next year is just abysmally stupid IMO, unless you are ONE PLAYER AWAY and Tannebaum has stated the Phins are not one player away. So he has hamstrung the Phins draft NEXT YEAR for one player this year???

Anyone want to bet on him trading 2018 picks for a player in 2017?

Absolutely NO CLUE on how to maximize the draft for value IMHO.

And then, we come to the PROBLEMS with the actual picks the Phins made or did not make...

LB - When your starters struggle against the run and the pass as much as the Phins LBs did last year, you have problems. Yet apparently, adding Kiko Alonso has FIXED THE LB situation in Miami??? Say What? Scuse' moi? So, adding Alonso, an oft-injured LB to Misi (oft-injured) and Jenkins (oft-injured) is THE solution this buncha brainiacs came up with?

WRs - With the holes all over the roster, the Phins went out and drafted WRs and a WR/TE with three picks, plus a specialist RB/KR with another, and thought so much of one of them, they traded TWO 2017 picks to do it??? Maybe they are going to try and trade Stills? I am sure Tannenbaum could get a used blocking sled and some old patched footballs for him.

RB - And speaking of RB, I guess once Elliot was gone, the Phins decided a specialist RB was all they needed? I like Drake, but he is not an every down back. But when you have Daniel Thomas, do you really need another RB?

DE - Wake coming off an injury, Williams is old, but maybe Dion Jordan will be back, so....

Again, the Phins did a terrible job of maximizing the draft IMHO. Which is another whole aspect of drafting aside from who you pick. The Phins have not done a good job maximizing the draft for decades, and thus the mired in mediocrity predicament they find themselves in perpetually.


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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by Degarmo on Mon May 02, 2016 5:29 pm

I'm at the point where I think I understand it.

GMs that know they are bad GMs pick and purchase oft-injured players so they have a built in excuse to keep their jobs for another year or two.
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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by rightchea on Mon May 02, 2016 9:02 pm

Well it look like Miami tried to make up for not getting a LB in the draft by getting some from UDFA:

Miami Dolphins

Akil Blount, LB, FAMU
James Burgess, LB, Louisville
Ruben Carter, OL, Florida State
Ryan Di Salvo, LS, San Jose State
Tyler Gray, LB, Boise State
Gabe Hughes, TE, Florida Tech
Farrington Huguenin, DL, Kentucky
Marshall Koehn, K, Iowa
Lafayette Pitts, CB, Pitt
Rashawn Scott, WR, UM
Brandon Shippen, DB, Temple

The only pickup I really like is Rashawn Scott and James Burgess.

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Post by HalCHorn on Mon May 02, 2016 10:37 pm

Akil is Mel Blount's son.

Burgess is small but tough, could help ST's.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by JMP on Tue May 03, 2016 1:04 am

A long snapper...wonder if Denney is on the hot seat???

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by Birdmond on Tue May 03, 2016 6:40 am

HalCHorn wrote:Akil is Mel Blount's son.

Burgess is small but tough, could help ST's.

I kept hearing everyone say Scooby could be the next Zach Thomas. Burgess has a much better chance than Scooby. 4.59 in the 40 and very good in coverage. I actually like Burgess and Blount more than Hall and Vigil.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by JMP on Tue May 03, 2016 7:53 am

Burgess doesn't look big enough for this D, but he should do well on specials. Not sure if that will be enough to make the team - we have a lot of special teams LBs right now.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by finfanatic on Tue May 03, 2016 10:21 am

JMP wrote:A long snapper...wonder if Denney is on the hot seat???

Heck yeah he is on the hot seat!

He is 37 years old (I think) and makes WAY TOO MUCH (so I hear) to just be the long snapper.

The Phins should be trying to get someone younger and cheaper, but Coaches HATE having a bad long snapper.

The kicker is bad enough, but when the kicker has to WORRY about the snap too, you have serious problems.


John Denney signed a 3 year, $3,450,087 contract with the Miami Dolphins, including a $400,000 signing bonus, $400,000
guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,150,029. In 2016, Denney will earn a base salary of $1,095,000 and a workout
bonus of $20,000.
John Denney Contract, Salary Cap Details & Breakdowns ...

www.spotrac.com/nfl/miami-dolphins/john-denney/

Not bad work if you can get it.  Cool

EDIT: Yep. Denney has the highest cap hit for a long snapper in the NFL this season. So, yeah, he is on the hot seat.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/long-snapper/

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by rightchea on Tue May 03, 2016 10:51 am

I drop him as well. I mean not like he is important right.................


but at the age of 37 I tell him to let it go as well.

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Re: Are we better today than we were on Wednesday?

Post by JMP on Tue May 03, 2016 11:24 am

It's a tough call - Denney is old and expensive, but he is an excellent long snapper and a top STs player - maybe the Phins' best STs player.  You don't realize how important a LS is till you have a crappy one!

That said, I hope this rookie can win the job...Denney can't play forever.

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