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Post by CarsonChris Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:16 pm

Watching the 49ers run through the competition and wondering why we don’t install a Shannahan zone blocking system?

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:33 pm

I think this team needs to get better players first and then worry about the system.

Also, I could've sworn they did use zone blocking, at least as recently as the Philbin Era. I think most teams do these days.

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Post by JMP Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:31 am

From what I understand, Gailey's teams always rely on a fair amount of zone blocking. I don't think it will be all zone all the time, but it will definitely be part of the offense.

Gailey typically likes big offensive linemen that are also athletic.


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Post by rightchea Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:21 am

Yeah I feel like Flores got himself a new OC so that it would be different for the newer upcoming players.

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Post by JMP Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:57 am

Wasn't sure where to post this, but thought it might fit here. Interesting article about Gailey's offense and which RBs might fit:

https://www.fivereasonssports.com/voices/chan-gailey-dolphins-new-emphasis-on-running-back-position/


You have to go back to Chan Gailey’s history to see what his run calls look like, and something is immediately clear. The man loves Lead ISO runs. In short, Lead ISO was a way for spread concept teams to gain a bit of that “power” look from more conventional run offenses. They almost always entail a double team at the point of attack, with the “ISO” part being an emphasis on isolating an opposing LB with a lead block. The run is either called to the right side of the center (the 2 hole) or the right side of the guard (the 4 hole), or to the left, conversely, the 1 and 3 hole.

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This is a change from what the New England Patriots, and what the Miami Dolphins did for this one year. Miami had a designed run game, built around counters, use of wham blocks, straight lead runs, and “power” run concepts. This type of run offense is quickly becoming a NFL dinosaur. What they are switching too now, in theory simplifies the run game, but puts a larger emphasis on the running back position, and a runner with good instincts to find the correct cuts on each play to find the proper run lane, especially to the back side, which lead ISO plays tend to produce.

Sounds like Flores really wants a strong running game, and didn't think O'Shea could bring it.

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Post by finfanatic Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:35 pm

Yeah, I think the Phins are gonna draft one stud RB and bring in a slew of undrafted free agent RBs.

I doubt they go for one in the 1st round, but if somebody drops way down, who knows?
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Post by JMP Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:07 pm

finfanatic wrote:Yeah, I think the Phins are gonna draft one stud RB and bring in a slew of undrafted free agent RBs.

I doubt they go for one in the 1st round, but if somebody drops way down, who knows?

I think RB will be a priority for sure. That first 2nd rounder we have looks like a sweet spot for RB...Dobbins, Etienne, Taylor, Najee Harris, Hubbard, etc. And there's always a chance we throw free agent money at Melvin Gordon, which I would not be opposed to. I prefer to draft a guy, but I've always liked Gordon and he fits this offense.

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Post by DolFan 316 Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:20 am

Melvin Gordon is not a team player. And methinks Flores already knows this. He's basically Leveon Lite. Also, I think teams may have finally wised up and stopped throwing absurd money at RBs after the Bell and Zeke Elliott debacles. Then again whenever I finally think NFL teams might have actually developed some sense I always get proven wrong in spades.

EDIT: Also, Gordon has failed to crack 4 yards per carry in 4 of his 5 seasons. The dude just isn't that good.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GordMe00.htm

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Post by JMP Fri Jan 03, 2020 8:41 am

Yeah, like I said I would prefer to draft a RB. Just leaving open the possibility of Gordon.

My ideal would be to sign David Johnson to a cheap one-year prove it deal and then draft a RB in round 2 or 3. Then Johnson can be a mentor for a season...and I think he still has some gas in the tank if can avoid injury.

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