Bomb Shell: Flores Suing Dolphins, League in Class Action

JMP wrote:Interesting.  I didn't know that the deal becomes null and void.  That would create quite the free-for-all...my guess is the Dolphins would be a hot commodity.

It's actually quite simple, you can't give something to someone else if that thing is not yours. BIG difference between Ross passing the team he owns to Beal and Ross no longer having a team to pass to Beal.

BTW remember that time I posted that Flores just looked like an asshole to me? Seriously, he always had this mean look to him IMO. I used to think it was a good thing since like all of you I grew up at a time when the best coaches were all hardasses you didn't dare cross if you knew what was good for you, but now I know the truth.

Well, nearly a week later and no one has joined the suit. Not even Hue Jackson, though to be fair I doubt if he would be an asset. I mean, hard to claim you were unjustly fired when you had a shot once the 'franchise QB' was secured, and went 2-5 with him while your successor went 5-3 after you were fired. And....you weren't fired after going 1-31 for two years before that! I mean, that's textbook patience I would think....

The one thing it looks like Flores is accomplishing is this: he might get Lovie Smith picked over him in Houston. Very impressive, Mr. Kotter.

JMP wrote:So yeah, all the jobs are now filled: Lovie Smith to Houston, Dennis Allen to the Saints.  And Brian Flores...nothing.

Nothing is what he deserves because nothing is what he is! HA!!!

The Texans hiring a black coach who's not Flores is such delicious irony

Won't stop Florio from wringing every last article he can out of the suit. Predictably he has one up now alleging that Smith got hired over Flores because of the lawsuit.

Uh, Lovie Smith got to a Super Bowl with Rex Grossman as his 16 game starting QB. That is up there on the great coaching achievements of the last two decades, I'd say.

Flores proved he is an arrogant A-hole. Even if he did not get one of the jobs this year all he had to do was do a few nice interviews to show he was not an ego-manic. Either go back to King Bill or grab a TV gig and he would've been a top candidate. Instead he probably ruined his coaching career.

Media: We're on Flores' side because the NFL is racist for not hiring enough black coaches!

Texans: (Hire a black head coach.)

Media: The Texans are racist for hiring a black coach not named Brian Flores! It's a conspiracy just like he said!

Seriously, can people BE more insane? Do I even want to know the answer to that?

And Florio was making such progress too, saying how sick and tired he was of the virus restrictions. I guess he got taken to the Ministry Of Love...

JEGnj wrote:Flores proved he is an arrogant A-hole. Even if he did not get one of the jobs this year all he had to do was do a few nice interviews to show he was not an ego-manic. Either go back to King Bill or grab a TV gig and he would've been a top candidate. Instead he probably ruined his coaching career.

He even turned on Belichick. I'm telling you, someone's using him to advance an agenda, there's no way he could possibly be dumb enough to do this all on his own. He's getting paid lots of money under the table by his puppet masters, I'm sure.

I do love that nobody else joined him in the "class action" part, though. It's hilarious that the people behind this actually thought that every black coach in the NFL was going to rise up and sue their employers because "equality" thus guaranteeing they'd never be hired in the NFL again

HalCHorn wrote:Predictably he has one up now alleging that Smith got hired over Flores because of the lawsuit.

here's the quote from Flores' lawyers.

“Mr. Flores is happy to hear that the Texans have hired a Black head coach, Lovie Smith,” they said, “as Mr. Flores’ goal in bringing his case is to provide real opportunities for Black and minority candidates to be considered for coaching and executive positions within the NFL."

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article258152063.html

so first Flores take credit for getting Smith hired.

"However, we would be remiss not to mention that Mr. Flores was one of three finalists for the Texans’ head coach position and, after a great interview and mutual interest, it is obvious that the only reason Mr. Flores was not selected was his decision to stand up against racial inequality across the NFL.”

and then he takes a shot at Smith by basically saying he should've been hired over Smith, but for the lawsuit.

if i'm Lovie Smith, i send Flores a note that says, "F.U. Brian, the only reason you weren't hired is because I am the more deserving candidate!"

Wow. Yeah, he really is "circling the drain". The tweet about the Texans hiring Lovie was totally unnecessary. All it did was damage his reputation further than it already was.

IMO I think it's *just* Ross that will be in trouble if this is true.

The league will most likely force Ross to sell the team, and might not honor his chosen successor - as that plan was clearly in place with the assumption Ross would either sell in good standing, or the plan would be triggered on his death.

My hope - and this is only a hope - is that the league will not take away draft picks. Which they certainly could.

I don't understand that approach but would not put it past them. Why punish the football operation - and the fans - for bribery committed by the team owner? And a bribery that had no material impact on the win loss record anyways, as Flores refused?

But the NFL will do what it does....

SO...this witness is finally revealed...as a long time friend for Flores and his hand-picked right hand man?

Yeah, I'm sure *he's* credible and there's no bias or conflict of interest there

Again, where's the actual evidence? Because if "I heard Ross make the offer" is all they've got, they're more fucked than a porn star. Anyone who actually believes that would by definition also believe Ross is dumb enough to bribe Flores is front of someone else. Businesses do have private offices, with key codes and fingerprints and even retina scans required to enter them. Flores' only hope is that Ross doesn't understand how technology works and left a Siri or Alexa on when this alleged bribe was taking place and the NFL seizes that. It's the only way I can think of that doesn't involve Ross being a complete idiot.

Also again, don't think Ross being forced out will be a good thing. The new owner is guaranteed to be woke--I mean, worse.

But if the NFL really thinks they can force Ross to sell because of one person's hearsay, they're as misguided as Flores. Just trust the process, fellas. Right now who's easier to believe, Ross or Flores? We already know Flores has already dug and continues to dig himself a hole regarding the race thing, why would he be dead on about the bribery thing?

And of course the media's completely ignoring the obvious question of why Flores kept quiet about this for 3 years until he was fired. Also, if Flores actually accepted this bribe and it shows up in his bank statements from 3 years ago, that's income unreported to the IRS, which means Mr. Flores is in a bit of trouble...

So far everything I've predicted about this situation has or is in the process of coming true.

I told you Flores was a pawn being used by people with a bigger agenda and lo and behold, we find out about this plan by "civil rights leaders" to replace all NFL owners with a "woke" corporation that will force teams to hire the "proper" people.

I told you there was no point in Flores' attorneys hiding the identity of this "credible witness" against Ross since we'd all find out shortly anyway and lo and behold, they decided to reveal him after all.

And I'm telling you, this is a desperate attempt to destroy Ross and the NFL without a shred of actual, factual evidence that's already coming apart at the seams. If people don't surrender to fear and immediately cave, the far left bullies have NOTHING else to fall back on. Just like every other kind of bully, really.

So the Texans didn't hire him because they were retaliating against him for filing a suit that didn't name the Texans???

BREAKING NEWS: Flores adds Cooper Kupp to the suit, claiming he's an example of a lack of diversity among NFL WRs and thus, is racist by definition.

DolFan 316 wrote:BREAKING NEWS: Flores adds Cooper Kupp to the suit, claiming he's an example of a lack of diversity among NFL WRs and thus, is racist by definition.

hahaha!!

Flores' supposed witness to the Ross "bribe"...

That witness is former Dolphins assistant to the head coach Lance Bennett, according to the sources.

Bennett, hired by Flores in 2019 as his right-hand man, has told the lawyers representing Flores he is willing to corroborate the coach’s account that Ross offered the coach $100,000 to lose games in 2019.

https://www.outkick.com/roger-goodell-calls-allegations-against-stephen-ross-very-disturbing-and-witness-is-known/

one, who is this guy - and did anybody even know he worked for the Dolphins?

two, why is it that Armando can still get this kind of information and the local reporters who cover the team are oblivious?

three, the supposed witness thing might not be as "damning" as one might think...

Flores and Bennett attended high school together and remained close friends over the years. Bennett left his role as “assistant to the head coach” when Flores was dismissed.

Bennett “is not an unbiased witness. He probably has a bias. If you were evaluating his account of what he says occurred, you would have to ask yourself whether he’s completely trustworthy."

so Flores - who is supposedly all about fairness - was getting his high school bud a high-paying job on the Dolphins tab. hmmm.

The only thing I really care about is if Ross gets in trouble... they better not take draft picks for his screw up.

Haven't the fans of this team suffered enough? If they want to make him sell do it, but that should be punishment enough.

i did a little looking into just exactly what Mr. Bennett's contributions to the organization were...

well, you remember that deal where Miami was giving a second chance to failed Titan's 1st round pick Isaiah Wilson? you know, the one who repaid Miami's faith by rapping shirtless on the roof of a car in Miami Beach. well...

In Miami, Wilson will reunite with former Georgia teammate Solomon Kindley on the OL, and his new coach is Brian Flores. Flores and Wilson both attended Poly Prep in the Dyker Heights section of Brooklyn. In fact, Flores’s former assistant Lance Bennett helped recruit Wilson to the school.

https://www.phinmaniacs.com/articles/previous/10

so was this really Flores taking a chance on a talented prospect - or doing a solid for a fellow associate on the Dolphins dime?

white1 wrote:The only thing I really care about is if Ross gets in trouble... they better not take draft picks for his screw up.

funny you should mention that...

“A league source confirmed that owners could, in fact, vote a fellow owner out under the most dire circumstances based on league rules, which would require a three-fourths vote.”

“despite today’s report regarding the possibility of Stephen Ross being forced to sell the Miami Dolphins because of the alleged payments to Brian Flores, I find it nearly impossible to believe that ¾ of NFL owners would force a sale… “Short of evidence that games were actually ‘thrown,’ fine and losses of draft picks is the more likely and acceptable outcome.”

Ross goes free and the team - and fans - get punished.

Ross goes free and the team - and fans - get punished.

Yeah, exactly.

And in whose mind is that "the more likely and ACCEPTABLE outcome?" Acceptable for Ross, sure. Certainly not acceptable for the fans who will have to watch the annual draft with the league skipping over Miami how ever many times due to his screwup.

Then what? McDaniel enters year 3 without the benefit of how ever many draft picks Ross squandered on his ridiculous bribery scandal. Then Ross gets unhappy with his "performance" and fires him?

Take action against the owner. Don't punish the fans.