Dolphins staff

HalCHorn wrote:Clyde Christensen as the offensive coordinator.  Has also worked extensively with Manning.  Demoted but kept in Indy after the year without Manning (2011)  Has been QB coach working with Luck since.  

We will see.....

Ugh. Christensen has been horrible in his two stints as OC. And let's be honest, Luck did have one great season but other than that he has not lived up to his billing at all.

Well they moved Christensen back from OC so I think that why Luck started doing so bad

JMP wrote:Yes, Chris Foerster was Wanny's OC in 2004 when the Dolphins went 4-12 and ranked 28th in points and 29th in yards.  Note that he never got another job as an OC.

Just so you know:
--with Foerster as OL coach, the 49ers allowed 53 sacks this season, tied for 2nd in the NFL.
--with Foerster as OL coach, the Redskins allowed 58 sacks last season, ranked 2nd in the NFL.
---with Foerster as OL coach, the Redskins allowed 43 sacks in 2013, tied for 9th in the NFL.

So yeah, let's hire him - he's obviously going to improve our pass protection. 

Don't worry, folks...we just hired the Lions' OL coach Jerimiah Washburn (who was fired during the season, BTW) to assist Foerster.  The Lions allowed 45 sacks in 2014 and 44 in 2015.  Yep, we are going to have a stellar offensive line in 2016!  

(To be fair, the Lions allowed the second fewest sacks in the league - 23 - in 2013, Washburn's first season as OL coach.)

On the plus side, the Phins hired Jim Washburn (Jerimiah's father...our new assistant OL coach) as a defensive assistant to work with the DL.  He has more than 15 years of NFL experience as a DL coach.  He coached Suh for 2 years in Detroit.

Finally - a hire I like.  This is the type of veteran presence this coaching staff needed.

This is some interesting stuff.......

Cameron DaSilva wrote:Adam Gase's "claim to fame" when he was hired as the Miami Dolphins' next head coach was the fact that he coached both Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler. Obviously, he had a great deal of success with both of those quarterbacks. Cutler looked like a different player in 2015, throwing just 11 interceptions and completing 64.4 percent of his passes -- second-best in his career.




As for Manning, Gase didn't do it alone. According to Stephen Holder of the Indy Star, Gase used to call Clyde Christensen -- the Dolphins' new offensive coordinator and former Colts coach -- to get advice on coaching Manning. Now, the two are working together in Miami.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/miami-dolphins-indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-adam-gase-clyde-christensen-011916


I think that this was a setup.

JMP wrote:On the plus side, the Phins hired Jim Washburn (Jerimiah's father...our new assistant OL coach) as a defensive assistant to work with the DL. He has more than 15 years of NFL experience as a DL coach. He coached Suh for 2 years in Detroit.

Finally - a hire I like. This is the type of veteran presence this coaching staff needed.

Agreed.

I have higher hopes for the staff on the defensive side sticking long term, as Gase tinkers with the offensive side. Vance Joseph is promising (from what I've read on the respect he has around the league, capability to relate to players, and the fact he was interviewing for DC jobs last year).

Now we get a legit coach for the defensive line, which I would consider second most important for Gase only behind DC. Obviously, needs to deal with the larger than life Suh and an underachieving Phillips, and we will likely see a lot of turnover (with the possibility we lose one or ALL of Shelby, Wake, Mitchell, Vernon). So there will be free agents and draftees to coach up to the new system as well. Full plate for the DL coach.

Rizzi staying put is huge. Special teams will remain very important for a squad with not many strengths, and a lot of holes.

Jim Washburn is one of those old school tough-as-nails coaches.  He curses like a drunken sailor, and constantly yells at his players and gets in their face.  In order for his act to work, he needs tough players capable of taking harsh criticism.  Right now, most of the Dolphins players on defense seem to be thin-skinned, wussy, primadonnas.  Hopefully the hiring of Washburn means we'll start dumping all the weak-ass trash on defense like Koa Misi, Jamar Taylor, etc.

A guy like Washburn looks great when the players buy in and the defense is performing.  But his act will wear thin quickly if the players ignore him and the D continues to stink.  He was run out of Philadelphia because the players didn't respond.

Should be interesting to see what he does with the Phins...

rightchea wrote:This is some interesting stuff.......

Cameron DaSilva wrote:Adam Gase's "claim to fame" when he was hired as the Miami Dolphins' next head coach was the fact that he coached both Peyton Manning and Jay Cutler. Obviously, he had a great deal of success with both of those quarterbacks. Cutler looked like a different player in 2015, throwing just 11 interceptions and completing 64.4 percent of his passes -- second-best in his career.




As for Manning, Gase didn't do it alone. According to Stephen Holder of the Indy Star, Gase used to call Clyde Christensen -- the Dolphins' new offensive coordinator and former Colts coach -- to get advice on coaching Manning. Now, the two are working together in Miami.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/miami-dolphins-indianapolis-colts-peyton-manning-adam-gase-clyde-christensen-011916


I think that this was a setup.

The whole "Gase turned Cutler into a great QB" stories are total bullshit.  Yes, Cutler threw less INTs under Gase - BECAUSE HE THREW FEWER PASSES!  In fact, Cutler's INT % was less than one percent better under Gase...hardly a major improvement.  And under Gase, Cutler was one of the worst red zone QBs in the league.  With Gase as OC, the Bears were ranked in the 20s in total points, yards per game, yards per play and first downs per game.  In short, Gase's offense SUCKED in Chicago.

Message to the media and blind-ass Dolphins homers: please stop the Gase madness!  If you want to talk about how Gase had success with Manning, great - that's true and accurate, even if some would give most of the credit to Manning and the excellent receivers he had.   But please STOP spreading lies about Gase in Chicago...his offense there was NOT GOOD, and Cutler was NOT significantly better under Gase...those are the real facts.

I don't know how Gase will be in Miami.  I suspect year one will be a disaster, but a lot will depend on what happens with the roster.  But let's not bend over backwards to make Gase into something he's not.

JMP wrote:But let's not bend over backwards to make Gase into something he's not.

An up and coming head coach?

I can see it now...Gase will be retained after yet another awful season in Year 2, only to be fired midway through Year 3 with Jim Washburn replacing him as head coach and the players claiming they want to play for him, only to lay down as usual after a couple of wins that costs this team a top 5 pick yet again, and then Ross repeats the entire process that offseason while bringing in yet more ex-Jet cronies. It'll be like a horrible sequel of a bad sequel of an original movie that was terrible to begin with.

Meh.

DolFan 316 wrote:
I can see it now...Gase will be retained after yet another awful season in Year 2, only to be fired midway through Year 3 with Jim Washburn replacing him as head coach and the players claiming they want to play for him, only to lay down as usual after a couple of wins that costs this team a top 5 pick yet again, and then Ross repeats the entire process that offseason while bringing in yet more ex-Jet cronies. It'll be like a horrible sequel of a bad sequel of an original movie that was terrible to begin with.

As much a I know you are just "316ing" this comment, it is probably what will happen. We have seen this movie way too many times before.

Not real crazy about the staff, but willing to wait and see.

I have no idea if Gase will be a good HC or not. It was a weak year for candidates, no one really stood out for me the way Todd Bowles did last year. I am not crazy about the hire, but I'm all for hiring a young coach with considerable potential---if you find the next Bill Cowher or Mike Tomlin by doing so, that's great. It's better than hiring a known mediocrity (Wannstedt) or 'settling' on a Philbin or Cameron because the guys you really wanted rebuffed you.

At least I hope it's better. This much I know, it couldn't possibly be any worse than Dolphins football 2002-2015 (with one 'lightning in a bottle' exception) has been.

What scares me most of all is that Gase is the guy Ross wanted from the start.  I don't trust Ross's judgment at all when it comes to football.

I'd also feel much better about the hire if Gase didn't remind me of a young Joe Philbin with the way he looks and talks.  I have a bad feeling about this...