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Draft rumors
This one is for 316:
From rotoworld:
From rotoworld:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports "over the last couple of weeks, the Dolphins called the Bengals on more than one occasion to see if Cincinnati would be willing to trade the No. 1 overall pick."
Schefter added, "The Dolphins were told, in no uncertain terms, no. Cincinnati would not trade the pick and would stay put at No. 1." Joe Burrow will be wearing black and orange shortly after the draft begins.
Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Apr 23, 2020, 8:35 AM ET
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Other stuff I'm hearing:
The Browns could trade for Skins LT Trent Williams.
The Patriots could trade for Bucs TE OJ Howard.
The Falcons are trying to move into the top 5.
The Browns could trade for Skins LT Trent Williams.
The Patriots could trade for Bucs TE OJ Howard.
The Falcons are trying to move into the top 5.
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Dolphins want an OT more than QB. That would really spin some fans heads
CarsonChris- Posts : 2759
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CarsonChris wrote:Dolphins want an OT more than QB. That would really spin some fans heads
There's so many good OTs in this class...I don't see why you have to have the top guy (whoever that may be) when you don't even have a QB for him to protect!
The only way it makes sense is if the Phins have Jordan Love as their #1 QB. Because IMO there's no way Tua or Herbert will be available at 18.
I really don't see it, but stranger things have happened...and nothing surprises me anymore with the Dolphins!
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JMP wrote:CarsonChris wrote:Dolphins want an OT more than QB. That would really spin some fans heads
There's so many good OTs in this class...I don't see why you have to have the top guy (whoever that may be) when you don't even have a QB for him to protect!
The only way it makes sense is if the Phins have Jordan Love as their #1 QB. Because IMO there's no way Tua or Herbert will be available at 18.
I really don't see it, but stranger things have happened...and nothing surprises me anymore with the Dolphins!
While unlikely, I can see the Fins taking an OT at 5 then trying to get Love. What I don't buy for even a millisecond is the rumor that the Fins are trying to move up from 5 to 3 and draft an OT instead of a QB.
Killah Sith- Posts : 215
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That would be a total blunder if Miami went after a OL then a QB. Jordan Love is no where as good as Herbert, Tua or Burrow. But then again Dan Marino threw more INT than TD when he was drafted.
rightchea- Posts : 2682
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Herbert is the better QB right now, but I think Love has a higher ceiling...more playmaking ability. If Love becomes a better decision maker, I think he could be great.
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Saw someone compare Herbert to Josh Allen
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887992-josh-allen-pretty-good-comparison-for-justin-herbert-in-draft-jay-glazer-says
Rob Goldberg wrote:As teams consider taking Justin Herbert early in the first round of the 2020 NFL draft, Jay Glazer of The Athletic compared him to another high draft pick.
"Josh Allen is a pretty good comparison to Herbert," Glazer wrote of the Buffalo Bills quarterback.
He noted teams have listed both Herbert and Tua Tagovailoa as their No. 2 quarterbacks in the class behind Joe Burrow.
"Herbert is the type who is going to take a sledgehammer and try to force things through," Glazer added. "He will try to beat you into submission if he can. He doesn't really take what the defense gives him. He's going to try to take what he wants to take."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2887992-josh-allen-pretty-good-comparison-for-justin-herbert-in-draft-jay-glazer-says
rightchea- Posts : 2682
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Yeah, I've compared Herbert to Allen too - both have big arms but struggle with accuracy, and both give you too many games where they are a non-factor. Allen is more athletic and a much better runner.
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Every QB after the first two, it's going to come down to being with the right coach and having the luxury to sit and learn for awhile. That said, I'd rank them Herbert, Love, Hurts, Fromm, Eason in that order at the 5 I think have a shot at starting in the NFL. Anyone else, I'd say unlikely.
HalCHorn- Posts : 2143
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HalCHorn wrote:Every QB after the first two, it's going to come down to being with the right coach and having the luxury to sit and learn for awhile. That said, I'd rank them Herbert, Love, Hurts, Fromm, Eason in that order at the 5 I think have a shot at starting in the NFL. Anyone else, I'd say unlikely.
Agreed, but as I said I think I'd put Love above Herbert long-term. Coaching will make a huge difference, one way or another, for all these guys.
I could definitely see Fromm going to the Patriots at some point - seems like an ideal fit for that offense.
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My biggest issue with Herbert is the fact that he hasn't been out of Oregon ever in his life besides when he played games. They also said that he is mature but things are different when you interact with players from all types of backgrounds outside of a small city he from
rightchea- Posts : 2682
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Latest PFT rumor, Miami trying to get #3 and keep #5, in order to make another run with Cincy at 1 overall for Burrow.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/23/dolphins-want-to-get-no-3-and-no-5-in-effort-to-get-to-no-1/
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/23/dolphins-want-to-get-no-3-and-no-5-in-effort-to-get-to-no-1/
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white1 wrote:Latest PFT rumor, Miami trying to get #3 and keep #5, in order to make another run with Cincy at 1 overall for Burrow.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/23/dolphins-want-to-get-no-3-and-no-5-in-effort-to-get-to-no-1/
There's so much smoke going around, I can't see my hand in front of my face!
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there no way that happening. But I didnt read that there is no way Miami is getting Tua. alot of NFL people dont see it happening
rightchea- Posts : 2682
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It is possible that the Phins want Burrow and will do what it takes to get him. But if that was true, I doubt anyone in the media would know.
I still think all signs point to Tua, but maybe that's just the smoke in my eyes! LOL
I still think all signs point to Tua, but maybe that's just the smoke in my eyes! LOL
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And so the next question is simple: Who are the Dolphins focused on if they’re trying to trade up for a quarterback?
My gut tells me it’s Justin Herbert.
I believe the Dolphins would like to select Justin Herbert.
I’ve spoken to four NFL heads of football operations or former heads of football ops and asked who they would pick if they were the Miami Dolphins. All four told me they would pick Justin Herbert.
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article242229136.html
Armando seems to think the Phins will move all to land Herbert. I don't believe it.
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mercury22nathan wrote:And so the next question is simple: Who are the Dolphins focused on if they’re trying to trade up for a quarterback?
My gut tells me it’s Justin Herbert.
I believe the Dolphins would like to select Justin Herbert.
I’ve spoken to four NFL heads of football operations or former heads of football ops and asked who they would pick if they were the Miami Dolphins. All four told me they would pick Justin Herbert.
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article242229136.html
Armando seems to think the Phins will move all to land Herbert. I don't believe it.
Armando has been pro-Herbert and anti-Tua for awhile now. He has also been wrong about almost all Dolphins "scoops" since Tannenbaum left the building.
Also hearing that the Jags are very interested in Tua...
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Herbert will almost certainly be there at 5. If he isn't, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
In the immortal words of Marshal Lucky, that price....is too high.
In the immortal words of Marshal Lucky, that price....is too high.
HalCHorn- Posts : 2143
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Yeah, it looks like Detroit is open to deal down, if they can still get Akudah.
I will be surprised if the Phins stay at #5 and are able to get Tua.
Unless....Unless....the Chargers trade up to #3 and draft Herbert??
Gonna be an interesting draft for sure.
I will be surprised if the Phins stay at #5 and are able to get Tua.
Unless....Unless....the Chargers trade up to #3 and draft Herbert??
Gonna be an interesting draft for sure.
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finfanatic wrote:Yeah, it looks like Detroit is open to deal down, if they can still get Akudah.
I will be surprised if the Phins stay at #5 and are able to get Tua.
Unless....Unless....the Chargers trade up to #3 and draft Herbert??
Gonna be an interesting draft for sure.
My thoughts:
--Hearing that the Lions are interested in Okudah, Simmons and Brown - so yes, if they can find a trade partner it makes sense for them to drop a few spots if they can. But I'm not sure anyone is really looking to get into the top 5, despite all the talk.
--Sounds like the Phins really want to trade up, but I'm not sure I buy it unless they are trying to get Burrow. I think they can stay at 5 and get Tua.
--Last I heard, the Chargers could trade all the way down to 21, allowing the Eagles to move up and take Lamb. That might make sense for the Chargers if they are not sold on Tua/Herbert.
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rightchea wrote:My biggest issue with Herbert is the fact that he hasn't been out of Oregon ever in his life besides when he played games. They also said that he is mature but things are different when you interact with players from all types of backgrounds outside of a small city he from
Oh dear lord...an Oregon SJW type actually having to interact with some people who...DISAGREE with his personal reality?!?! That will...not go well.
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Calling it now, the Fins are working on a three way deal with the Lions and Bengals to move up to #1. Not sure it'll go through but that's what the plan is.
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DolFan 316 wrote:Calling it now, the Fins are working on a three way deal with the Lions and Bengals to move up to #1. Not sure it'll go through but that's what the plan is.
That would be insane!!! But nothing would surprise me at this point!
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