Baker being released

DolFan 316 wrote:

Pick 55 *has* to be a LB now, right?

JMP wrote:They did try to keep Baker but couldn't agree on a restructure.

DolFan 316 wrote:Pick 55 *has* to be a LB now, right?

finfanatic wrote:You know, if I had had to bet a lot on Tindall, I would at the very least thought he would be a starter in the league? But to never get any further than Special teams? This is why I doubt my LB Evaluation talents?

JMP wrote:Yeah, Tindall seems to have a good skillset. Is it lack of instincts that's holding him back? Who knows - but I am curious to see what the new coaching staff can do with him.

On the Dolphins announcing Baker’s release with a failed physical designation, Rosenhaus said:

“It’s always a surprise with a great football player like Jerome who’s in his prime and played so well last year. We wouldn’t be having this discussion had it not been for the knee injury that Jerome suffered when his teammate ran into his knee and he sprained his MCL in the Commanders game and certainly the injury that he suffered against the Bills with a dislocated wrist.

“Jerome, in my opinion, has been one of the best players overall on the Dolphins since he was drafted here six years ago, has been a great leader, has had the green dot, he’s been a Walter Payton Man of the Year.

“The coaches shared with Jerome they were interested in him coming back. I think this was more of a salary thing. And certainly there’s interest in Jerome with the Dolphins organization and it’s mutual, but we couldn’t reach a satisfactory agreement in time and as a result he’s now a free agent.”

The Athletic wrote:Only one player who started the National Championship Game against Alabama in 2021 was not drafted, while four players who came off the bench in that game have been drafted … so far. Emphasis on so far.

Where the starters ended up going:

DE Travon Walker: first round 2022
NT Jordan Davis: first round 2022
DT Devonte Wyatt: first round, 2022
OLB Nolan Smith: first round, 2023
ILB Quay Walker: first round, 2022
ILB Nakobe Dean: third round, 2022
CB Derion Kendrick: sixth round, 2022
CB Kelee Ringo: fourth round, 2023
S Lewis Cine: first round, 2022
S Christopher Smith: fifth round, 2023
The only starter undrafted was William Poole, a nickel back who left the team early in the 2022 season.

Meanwhile, four backups — a misleading term in some of those cases — have been drafted. The most notable is Jalen Carter, who got significant snaps in 2021 and became the starter the next year. Two of the others — Channing Tindall and Robert Beal — were basically starters who didn’t happen to be on the field for the opening play of the game. (Tindall shared time with Quay Walker, Beal was the second outside linebacker after Smith.)

DolFan 316 wrote:

JMP wrote:Yeah, Tindall seems to have a good skillset. Is it lack of instincts that's holding him back? Who knows - but I am curious to see what the new coaching staff can do with him.

I know this is one of the increasingly many things you're not supposed to say in today's social climate but...it's obvious Tindall's not too swift in the brains department Ezukanma is likely in that category as well. This is what happens when the evaluation process throws out the Wonderlic and completely disregards all cognitive ability for...reasons.

finfanatic wrote:Yeah, I think Tindall's problems were he was surrounded by excessively good talent on that 2021 GA team and it elevated his play. I mean, he did have to split playing time with Quay Walker too, so...

https://theathletic.com/4473411/2023/04/30/georgia-football-defense-nfl-draft/

The Athletic wrote:Only one player who started the National Championship Game against Alabama in 2021 was not drafted, while four players who came off the bench in that game have been drafted … so far. Emphasis on so far.

Where the starters ended up going:

DE Travon Walker: first round 2022
NT Jordan Davis: first round 2022
DT Devonte Wyatt: first round, 2022
OLB Nolan Smith: first round, 2023
ILB Quay Walker: first round, 2022
ILB Nakobe Dean: third round, 2022
CB Derion Kendrick: sixth round, 2022
CB Kelee Ringo: fourth round, 2023
S Lewis Cine: first round, 2022
S Christopher Smith: fifth round, 2023
The only starter undrafted was William Poole, a nickel back who left the team early in the 2022 season.

Meanwhile, four backups — a misleading term in some of those cases — have been drafted. The most notable is Jalen Carter, who got significant snaps in 2021 and became the starter the next year. Two of the others — Channing Tindall and Robert Beal — were basically starters who didn’t happen to be on the field for the opening play of the game. (Tindall shared time with Quay Walker, Beal was the second outside linebacker after Smith.)

You have to look at who the player played with as well as the HC, the DC, the scheme, etc... watch the tape, examine the combine numbers, the interview, on and on... And then every scout, coach, and player evaluator has a different opinion, which have to be condensed into a ranking and then... It's no wonder so many GMs screw it up.