Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
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Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
You’ll recall the 2018 draft. It was one in which the Dolphins’ personnel department fell in love with then Alabama defensive back Minkah Fitzpatrick. And when Fitzpatrick was available to Miami when it was slotted to make a selection with the No. 11 overall pick, general manager Chris Grier didn’t hesitate to put in the pick for his, and indeed, everyone’s guy.
Except Fitzpatrick was not Ross’s guy.
Ross stopped the proceedings and suggested trading down. Ross confirmed to me that he wanted his people to think more strategically. He wanted them to consider multiplying the team’s pick by trading down for extra picks.
And later I reported that Grier, running his third Dolphins draft as general manager, worked to talk Ross off his position. I was told by a league source Grier even told Ross he was picking Fitzpatrick and if the owner wanted to fire him, then he could fire him.
But multiple other professional media outlets have since reported one of the things Ross also wanted Grier to do after making his trade-down was consider picking Louisville quarterback Lamar Jackson.
...it’s now very bad news for Grier. Because that would mean on Sunday, the player Ross wanted completed 85 percent of his passes for 324 yards and 5 TD passes.
And he did it against the Miami Dolphins not for the Miami Dolphins.
And Fitzpatrick, like most of Miami’s players, didn’t play well.
And I asked a couple about Ross. Is he the kind of guy who would let an obvious mistake like that go seemingly unnoticed? Or would he say something?
And I’m told Ross would routinely say what was on his mind about different decisions within the organization -- especially if he was right and others were wrong.
Ross had a better grasp of what his team needed and should have done in the draft than his current general manager. And he had it figured out better than his entire personnel department, actually, most of whom remain employed by the Dolphins.
This would not be a good look for Grier.
How can Ross, seeing his guy ballin’ when he was told by his experts their guy was better, keep a high confidence that he has the right people steering the franchise into the future?
Could this cause Ross to wonder if the general manager he tapped to run the entire organization and find a quarterback in 2020 be the right guy?
Grier is expected to lead the decision to find Miami’s quarterback in 2020. I think we understand already the dry run to find that guy in 2019, which Grier also led, isn’t going too well right now.
Josh Rosen, you see, came to the Dolphins in trade because Grier thought Rosen might develop into the guy. Except he hasn’t been that.
That cannot be the vision Grier had for Rosen when he gave up a second- and fifth-round pick for him last April.
So again, the man slated to lead the search for a franchise quarterback in 2020 looks like he probably should have listened to Ross and taken Jackson in the 2018 draft. And looks like he probably should have kept those No. 2 and No. 5 picks instead of trading for Rosen in the 2019 draft.
Grier better hope Ross is not keeping score.
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article234952332.html
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mercury22nathan- Posts : 2471
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Re: Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
I'm actually on Ross's side for once. So far all Grier's done is have a hand in all the bad drafts that led to this disaster, and all Flores has done is go out of his way to take players out of what they do best for the sake of "versatility". Because apparently all football players now have acquired IQs of at least 150 when I wasn't paying attention, or something.
I'm telling you all, Grier and Flores are not the guys. They're no better than the other bumblers and bums this century.
I'm telling you all, Grier and Flores are not the guys. They're no better than the other bumblers and bums this century.
DolFan 316- Posts : 8558
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Re: Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
Sounds like Armando is fishing for a story. It's far too early to crown Lamar Jackson as the Next Big Thing, and we have no idea how Rosen will turn out.
One thing to keep in mind is that it's not just Grier anymore, it's Grier, Marvin Allen and Reggie McKenzie. That is a big difference.
As for Flores, he's establishing his system, and yes, it does require smart, versatile players. It will unfortunately take time, and one game is simply not an indication of what will happen moving forward.
One thing to keep in mind is that it's not just Grier anymore, it's Grier, Marvin Allen and Reggie McKenzie. That is a big difference.
As for Flores, he's establishing his system, and yes, it does require smart, versatile players. It will unfortunately take time, and one game is simply not an indication of what will happen moving forward.
Re: Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
Lest we forget, Gase had considerable say in the 2018 draft, and didn't want to take anyone who couldn't help him win right away.
As for Rosen, well, he's a project. Many saw Lamar Jackson as a project, some didn't even want him to play QB in the NFL before that draft!
Besides, Ross' position was because he wanted to accumulate draft picks. What has the Grier/Flores regime been doing since he took over? Just that.
I like Lamar Jackson a lot, but Armando really seems to be taking an angle to get clicks if you ask me. There's no indication that Ross isn't on board with accumulating picks, and who wouldn't have given # 62 and a fifth rounder to get a 21 year old QB who the entire league would have been lauding the Dolphins for taking at # 11 just a year earlier?
As for Rosen, well, he's a project. Many saw Lamar Jackson as a project, some didn't even want him to play QB in the NFL before that draft!
Besides, Ross' position was because he wanted to accumulate draft picks. What has the Grier/Flores regime been doing since he took over? Just that.
I like Lamar Jackson a lot, but Armando really seems to be taking an angle to get clicks if you ask me. There's no indication that Ross isn't on board with accumulating picks, and who wouldn't have given # 62 and a fifth rounder to get a 21 year old QB who the entire league would have been lauding the Dolphins for taking at # 11 just a year earlier?
HalCHorn- Posts : 2143
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Re: Has Ross already given up on Grier's plan?
Tannenbaum had a lot of influence as well. At this point, we can only hope for the best, because Ross isn't going to hire this board as it's draft specialists, because god knows we'd be good at it.
Degarmo- Posts : 2698
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