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Gase contacted Peyton Manning last season after Tannehill's injury

Post by JMP on Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:38 am

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article157999004.html

Dolphins coach Adam Gase reached out to retired quarterback Peyton Manning in the immediate aftermath of Ryan Tannehill’s knee injury last December.

That’s according to Peyton’s father, Archie, who revealed that nugget in an interview with The New Orleans Times Picayune on Friday.

Archie Manning said Friday that he witnessed a text-message exchange between Peyton and Gase.

“He said, ‘Hey 18, [Ryan] Tannehill went down,'” Archie said. “[Gase] said, ‘I think he’s going to miss some time. The first question I’m going to get at the press conference in the morning is if I’m going to try to bring you to Miami. What do you want me to tell them?'”

That phrasing allowed Gase to gauge Manning’s interest in a comeback without asking in so many words.

Said Archie: “The text message came back from Peyton, ‘You tell them I could probably come play, but there’s no way I can miss carpool the next two weeks.’ So, he was done.”


VERY interesting. I tend to think that Peyton was done and wouldn't have made any difference against the Steelers, but it would have been cool to see him in a Dolphins uni for a few weeks.

And...what does this say about Gase's faith in Matt Moore???

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Post by Degarmo on Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:08 pm

Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money. They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence. I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.

As far as Manning, good on him to stay away. He was physically finished, and no reason to (further) taint an otherwise great career.
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Post by JMP on Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:24 pm

Degarmo wrote:Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money.  They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence.  I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.

You should know by now that it isn't possible for anyone to agree about anything more than I agree with this statement. Cool I hate dead end players that offer zero upside - and that's exactly what Moore is.

Degamo wrote:As far as Manning, good on him to stay away. He was physically finished, and no reason to (further) taint an otherwise great career.

Yep. Kinda refreshing to see an athlete that knows when to walk away. I know it's hard to turn down big money, but at some point health has to come first.


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Post by Degarmo on Mon Jun 26, 2017 7:41 pm

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Yep.  Kinda refreshing to see an athlete that knows when to walk away.  I know it's hard to turn down big money, but at some point health has to come first.


His family life plays a big role in that as well. Plus, what the hell is left to prove?
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Post by Birdmond on Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:09 am

JMP wrote:http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/barry-jackson/article157999004.html

Dolphins coach Adam Gase reached out to retired quarterback Peyton Manning in the immediate aftermath of Ryan Tannehill’s knee injury last December.

That’s according to Peyton’s father, Archie, who revealed that nugget in an interview with The New Orleans Times Picayune on Friday.

Archie Manning said Friday that he witnessed a text-message exchange between Peyton and Gase.

“He said, ‘Hey 18, [Ryan] Tannehill went down,'” Archie said. “[Gase] said, ‘I think he’s going to miss some time. The first question I’m going to get at the press conference in the morning is if I’m going to try to bring you to Miami. What do you want me to tell them?'”

That phrasing allowed Gase to gauge Manning’s interest in a comeback without asking in so many words.

Said Archie: “The text message came back from Peyton, ‘You tell them I could probably come play, but there’s no way I can miss carpool the next two weeks.’ So, he was done.”


VERY interesting. I tend to think that Peyton was done and wouldn't have made any difference against the Steelers, but it would have been cool to see him in a Dolphins uni for a few weeks.

And...what does this say about Gase's faith in Matt Moore???

IDK, just the Moore fumbling was devastating. I think Manning would have dinked and dunked and the game would have been close.

I don't think it has anything to do with Matt Moore. If you can get Peyton Manning you do it, regardless of your back up.

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Post by Birdmond on Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:11 am

Degarmo wrote:Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money. They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence. I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.

As far as Manning, good on him to stay away. He was physically finished, and no reason to (further) taint an otherwise great career.


I've always believed your back up QB should be more athletic than your starter. This way the D at least has too worry about the QB escaping the pocket.

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Post by Degarmo on Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:11 pm

Birdmond wrote:
Degarmo wrote:Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money.  They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence.  I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.

As far as Manning, good on him to stay away.  He was physically finished, and no reason to (further) taint an otherwise great career.


I've always believed your back up QB should be more athletic than your starter.   This way the D at least has too worry about the QB escaping the pocket.    

That's a great point, and it also makes it a tough matchup if he comes in the game because the other team really didn't have a chance to prepare for that attack.
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Post by JMP on Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:46 pm

Degarmo wrote:
Birdmond wrote:
Degarmo wrote:Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money.  They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence.  I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.

As far as Manning, good on him to stay away.  He was physically finished, and no reason to (further) taint an otherwise great career.


I've always believed your back up QB should be more athletic than your starter.   This way the D at least has too worry about the QB escaping the pocket.    

That's a great point, and it also makes it a tough matchup if he comes in the game because the other team really didn't have a chance to prepare for that attack.

Yep, exactly. It gives your offense a chance to move the ball even if you're outmatched. I like it.

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Post by rightchea on Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:37 pm

Degarmo wrote:Matt Moore is such a waste of a roster spot and money. They literally could have any developmental guy there carrying the chart and then going in and going 1-4 in Tannehill's absence. I'd rather have a guy in there learning, or a GOOD (do they make these anymore?) backup vet.


I have to agree but he is reliable when needed. So i feel like as long has he is serviceable then keep him until they find something better.

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Re: Gase contacted Peyton Manning last season after Tannehill's injury

Post by Degarmo on Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:49 am

He's a reliable 1-3 for every four-game stint.
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Post by JMP on Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:15 am

Matt Moore reliably fumbles or tosses a close-your-eyes-and-randomly-throw-the-ball INT whenever his team needs a big play. I never liked him to begin with, but at this point I'm just so done with him.

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Re: Gase contacted Peyton Manning last season after Tannehill's injury

Post by white1 on Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:32 am

How quickly we turn on the QB that actually got us into the playoffs!

I know Tannehill did his part to position us ultimately for a playoff run, but that game in Buffalo was a real challenge and we found a way to win.

I honestly think there are probably ten teams who have a QB WORSE than Matt Moore. In other words, he could start for them. The Jets come to mind immediately, but there are others I'm sure in a similar situation.

I just don't understand the hate. The stats bear out just how good he was down the stretch for us, and in no way do they support the rhetoric I'm reading in these posts. 105.6 QB rating. 8 touchdowns and 3 INT. Those stats are better than coveted starters like Derek Carr and Kirk Cousins.

Sure he's not the future in Miami. But he's a damn good backup, who performed really well in our offense last season, winning games and getting us into the playoffs. What else do you want from your backup QB? Because he gave us exactly what we needed.

Pivoting to Pittsburgh for the last piece of this post. Do you guys remember that game? Our defense, in its injury depleted state, had no prayer of stopping that offense. None. They scored at will and the game could have been worse if they didn't let up when it was clearly out of reach. Our offense, in the best case scenario, would have lost in a shootout if they played better. That's the ceiling. Watching Bell have his way with our running defense was pathetic. And no one on our roster had a shot at covering Antonio Brown. We pissed them off with that beating in Miami, and they took it to us. Moore, or anyone else we could have started that day INCLUDING Manning was in for a long game.




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Post by JMP on Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:32 pm

Sure, Matt Moore could start for some teams.  Theoretically, literally anyone could start for the Jets for example.  But that doesn't mean Moore would be any good as a starter.  No NFL team has been willing to even let him sniff at a starting job, and I think that speaks volumes in a league where QBs are at a premium.

And Matt Moore was never going to beat the Steelers under any circumstances that day.  I don't care if he had the 72 Dolphin defense, he still would have handed the game to the Steelers with awful turnovers.  It's what he does.  He's a dead end QB with zero upside, and he'll never win a big game against a quality opponent.

Last season he beat a couple of crappy teams with nothing to play for and shit the bed against a good team - that's Matt Moore's career.  (It's pretty much Tannehill's career too, but that's another thread...)

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