Gase is digging his own grave...

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25149555/quarterback-ryan-tannehill-miami-dolphins-adamantly-defended-adam-gase

Amidst debate over Ryan Tannehill's long-term future in Miami, coach Adam Gase expressed plenty of emotion as he vehemently defended his injured starting quarterback.

"The first three games he played pretty good," Gase said, responding to a reporter's assertion that Tannehill hasn't been better in 2018 than previous seasons. "You're asking me that question and you don't even know what you're talking about. It's hard for me to defend anything when you don't know what you're talking about. You don't. I've watched the film. I sit there. We evaluate the scheme we're asking him to do and he does a good job on it."

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Gase took exception to a reporter mentioning the results Tannehill has produced on the field over his six-and-a-half seasons in Miami.

"That's how you look at things. Everything is results to you," Gase said. "We're going through a process because that's what it is. That's what the season is. It's about trying to get guys to trend upward. We were headed in the right direction. We hit a speed bump with New England. Then Cincinnati, he was playing well and then we lose our left tackle and we make two bad decisions."

Here's a youtube clip:


The reporter Gase pissed on was none other than Armando, who basically said that in the first 3 games Tannehill was the same QB he's always been - which is true. I love how Gase says "Everything is results to you." NEWS FLASH COACH: THE NFL IS ALL ABOUT RESULTS. Maybe he's too young and inexperienced to know that, but he'll find out real quick when Ross kicks him to the curb - which absolutely will happen if he continues to say stupid shit like this. Ross has his head up his ass, but he is not going to tolerate a coach that cares more about saving his fraudulent "genius" status than he does winning games.

Sure, Coach, forget the fact that the Dolphins offense only scored 10 points in that Bengals game...points don't matter, all that matters is Tannehill was "playing well." If that's the bar you set for "playing well", no wonder this team is such a joke. When the Patriots score 40 points, they complain about all the bad plays they had. When we score 10 points, it's time to heap raise on the QB. It's called "loser mentality".

I hope this assclown keeps talking crap like this...he's forcing Ross's hand closer to the trigger every time he opens his mouth.

And BTW, Coach...guys like Parcells earned the right to talk down to reporters. You're a nobody, and when you treat reporters like garbage you only come across as a whiny little bitch.

I can't wait till this loser is gone...so sick of his bullshit.

I don't like Gase as much as Jmp does

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NeverMyFault

The accountability on this team is non-existent. Now we have Burke defending his crap defensive scheme and saying "at some point, the players need to learn some shit", or whatever stupid comment he made yesterday. I thought Suh and his darn "freelancing" was the reason the defense sucked last year...wasn't that the narrative this offseason? This constant throwing players under the bus when it's clear that the coaches suck is really pathetic. I guess "culture change" doesn't matter when you don't know how to coach...who would've thunk it???

And 316 - you are right on with that "Never My Fault". I love the "Implausible Deniability" link in there too - fits Burke perfectly.

Hopefully he is a man who under immense pressure says inane things out of frustration. Because the alternative, that he actually believes the things he says, is a far worse proposition. The idea that a professional head football coach believes results, things like touchdowns, interceptions, sacks and most importantly – WINNING – do not matter is just mindbogglingly ridiculous.

And while Gase has had his schemes and guru status exposed as fraudulent, I believe there is more to the story here. Same owner, same climate, same results – this is Sparano versus Ireland all over again. Ross made it very clear he expected a winner this year and was even more miffed when his urging to select a new QB in the draft to begin grooming was ignored. Gase and Tannenbaum know they are on the hot seat and now that things have begun to go south, they are both entering self-preservation mode by cannibalizing the other.

Gase began in the offseason jettisoning (even earlier than that with the Ajayi trade and most recently with Philips) players from the roster that Tannenbaum built behind the mantra of culture change. All the while Gase continued to praise the clearly underperforming players (Harris being the most egregious example) that were brought in during his tenure with final say over the roster. This roster purge was a direct challenge to Tannenbaum’s ability to assemble talent. And when the team wins three right out of the gate (even though it was smoke, mirrors and trick plays), all is well. But when the losing starts, Gase begins blaming the players (again). And guess what – coincidentally, it just happens to get reminded in the separate articles of the local papers that it is indeed Gase who has final roster control. I’ll give you one guess who put that reminder out there – Tannenbaum. Odd how details of Gase’s contract, which had not been discussed since his hiring happen to come up again.

And then the curious case of Devante Parker (a player drafted during the Tannenbaum/Hickey era). He was seemingly healthy enough to practice, yet gets scratched from the game day roster resulting in the tirade of Parker’s agent calling Gase incompetent. So how many agents so publicly bite the hand that feeds them? This is an agent whose player has a potential fifth year option in the balance worth millions of dollars and he goes on the attack, not of the team, but of the coach specifically. No agent with so much to lose (and his reputation and potentially turning off suitors if his client hits free agency) would risk so much just to admonish a coach midseason. Unless…unless he had the private backing of the teams’s executive – the guy who believes he’ll be able to lump all the blame on Gase.

I’ve got to believe Gase realizes he is in a precarious position. He got everything he wanted this year. He got his coaches. He rid himself of players who challenged him. He brought in his free agents. He built the narrative that the team failed last year because of Tannehill’s injury and that the return of a healthy QB would cure the offense’s ills. That is why Gase must continue to point to the first three wins and construct the idea that Tannehill played well and was the reason Miami won those games. But in reality, the last thing Gase wants in a speedy return of Tannehill because that will further expose his lie. How else to explain the vagueness over which Gase has addressed Tannehill’s injury? If Tannehill returns and the team continues to spiral downward, Gase knows he is done. But if Tannehill’s injury clouds the team just long enough to put the season in doubt – well, you can see that Gase is already building that excuse.

JMP wrote:Now we have Burke defending his crap defensive scheme and saying "at some point, the players need to learn some shit", or whatever stupid comment he made yesterday.

so true. you would think at some point after churning through different players and coaches, yet still reaching the same pathetic results, a sane person might start to think that maybe its their scheme that is faulty. if different players continue to make the same mistakes, then maybe it ain't the players. this goes for both Gase's offense and Burke's (Joseph's) defense.

mercury22nathan wrote:Hopefully he is a man who under immense pressure says inane things out of frustration.  Because the alternative, that he actually believes the things he says, is a far worse proposition.  The idea that a professional head football coach believes results, things like touchdowns, interceptions, sacks and most importantly – WINNING – do not matter is just mindbogglingly ridiculous.

To be fair it's not just Gase, it's a disturbing modern way of thinking in which everything is all about "the process". If results aren't actually happening it's because "the process" just takes some time (exactly how much time is never specified) and people who wonder why success isn't actually occurring are labeled as impatient and "negative" and even accused of causing failure somehow by wondering why it's still going on. (Remind you of a previous message board? HMMM... )

Basically it's a new way of excuse-making, which people get away with because the modern world has now defined excuse-making as perfectly acceptable and even desirable. But of course anyone with the slightest capability of critical thought can see right through the bullshit.

Damn, merc...that post a couple of spots above this one may very well be the best message board post ever.

Once everyone starts pointing fingers at everyone else, it's all over. These guys are all in "save my own ass" mode. Hopefully Ross isn't stupid enough to ignore this blatant posturing and excuse-making. Enough is enough.

Haven't we heard about this "it's a process" before from some quite terrible coaches?

Everything's a fucking process. Taking a whiz is a process.

People use words nowadays like they mean things, and they mean nothing. "Going forward, we should look to management for comprehensive leadership and elegant solutions." That last sentence is a huge load of horseshit, meaning nothing, said in 1,000 meetings today alone.

Getting fired is also a process we're having to move forward to elegantly work through in order to facilitate new opportunities.

Fucking people, I swear.

By the way, Philbin loved the word "process", and Gase is Philbin 2.0.

Merc, you nailed it squarely on the head.

Degarmo wrote:Merc, you nailed it squarely on the head.  

Exactly, well said. You can see the signs now of the in-fighting and finger pointing, just as in the fireland/Sporano days. The whole lot of them need to be gone. Greer, probably a good man, knowledgeable, but has been here the longest in various positions, tannenbaum and the QB guru ALL need to be jettisoned to their next stop.

My main issue with this team starts at the top.Ross just REFUSES to blow the ENTIRE FO up. He likes to do it piece-meal. Fire a coach, but keep a GM, let the GM go but keep the coach and such insane moves.

I continue to say, the owner is the MAIN problem with this team. Until he either sells the team, dies, or hires the right head of football operations to run the organization, I see no change on the horizon. We will continue to be stuck in perpetual mediocrity.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/profootballdoc/sd-sp-pfd-ryan-tannehill-shoulder-injury-capsule-1102-story.html

Here is the word on the capsule injury. Like I said above, Tanny has played his last game for the Fins this year, and after that, most likely gone at year end.

This type of injury, which happens when the shoulder is fully cocked to throw and is forcibly stopped as the arm comes forward, is unpredictable in its recovery time. There is no defined timetable like there was for his previous throwing shoulder AC joint sprain.

Andrew Luck had a similar injury mechanism, but he tore the labrum and eventually needed surgery. Right now, it seems the plan is for conservative care for Tannehill.

Assuming it is a capsular sprain, the recovery time depends on the extent and location of the sprain.

Throwing is the hardest thing we ask the shoulder to do. Being that Tannehill has not thrown yet, he is still weeks away.

The hope is Tannehill can be ready before December, but it won’t be this week or next week.

Copyright 2018, The San Diego Union-Tribune

I see Gase and the coaches on this team like the air traffic controller in Airplane.

I really hope that Gase is gone after this season even if they make it to the playoff he still needs to be replaced. There is no way Miami only got 6 points on offense when your Defense basically get four INT's for you.

This type of performance was completely unacceptable. I've never seen an offensive coach that is so clueless running an offense.

If I was running the show, yesterday I would have had Gase escorted out of the stadium by security the second the game was ended. I'd throw all the shit from his office in a box and leave it at the curb. Give the team to Rizzi for the rest of the season, and then blow the whole damn thing up after week 17.

JMP wrote:This type of performance was completely unacceptable.  I've never seen an offensive coach that is so clueless running an offense.  

If I was running the show, yesterday I would have had Gase escorted out of the stadium by security the second the game was ended.  I'd throw all the shit from his office in a box and leave it at the curb.  Give the team to Rizzi for the rest of the season, and then blow the whole damn thing up after week 17.

Don't hold back, Jmp! Tell us how you really feel!

I'm posting this before I've read the game Thoughts BTW. This one ought to be a doozy

Or you can do like the Florida Panthers did with Gerard Gallant a couple years back (an excellent coach who took Vegas to the Stanley Cup in his first year there), and fire Gase on the road, and call him a cab . . . which actually happened in Detroit to Gallant.

Degarmo wrote:Or you can do like the Florida Panthers did with Gerard Gallant a couple years back (an excellent coach who took Vegas to the Stanley Cup in his first year there), and fire Gase on the road, and call him a cab . . . which actually happened in Detroit to Gallant.  

Screw that...make Gase call his own cab.

JMP wrote:

Degarmo wrote:Or you can do like the Florida Panthers did with Gerard Gallant a couple years back (an excellent coach who took Vegas to the Stanley Cup in his first year there), and fire Gase on the road, and call him a cab . . . which actually happened in Detroit to Gallant.  

Screw that...make Gase call his own cab.  

Or an Uber. It'll be the last time uber and Gase will be uttered together without the word failure thrown in there.

what makes it worst is your leading Safety walks off the game and doesn't come back because he doesnt like the gameplay from the defensive coach. it time to remove you and your staff

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