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Post by CarsonChris Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:34 am

Breaking news Flores out in Miami!

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Post by CarsonChris Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:35 am

Harbaugh in?

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:41 am

WTF???? Shocked

I didn't see that coming at all!

My initial reaction is: big mistake. Flores had his issues, but after 2 winning seasons I thought we were poised to make the next step.

Has to be for Harbaugh - makes no sense otherwise. If it is Harbaugh, I'm cautiously optimistic.

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:45 am

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League source: Jim Harbaugh not lined up for Dolphins and not coming to Dolphins
9:43 AM · Jan 10, 2022

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:45 am

Ian Rapoport
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#Dolphins coach Brian Flores was a signfiicant reason why Deshaun Watson wanted to be in Miami. WIth Flores out, this situation may have changed.
9:36 AM · Jan 10, 2022

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:47 am

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The #Dolphins have fired coach Brian Flores, sources say, while GM Chris Grier stays at GM. A power struggle in Miami.
9:34 AM · Jan 10, 2022

Ugh. Was hoping Grier would get fired too. This sucks.

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:50 am

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While I realize many are assuming Flores’ departure is tied to Harbaugh’s potential availability, I can assure you that is not the case. The Dolphins are not targeting Jim Harbaugh, per sources. The decision to fire Flores is entirely independent.
9:39 AM · Jan 10, 2022

Oh man, this REALLY sucks. Who the hell are we gonna get???

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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:50 am

I don't think giving head coaches personnel control is the right move in the majority of cases.

But the Brian Flores firing is a great example why coaches ask for it.

Poor guy was dying for his team to take Herbert over Tua. But it wasn't his decision.

Now, unemployed.

https://twitter.com/DarkoStateNews/status/1480551008031887363?s=20

Flores not fired. it was a mutual parting. Flores said it either me or Tua. and Grier (who is staying) said, "that's my call to make." and now Flores said bye bye.

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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:52 am

JMP wrote:Oh man, this REALLY sucks.  Who the hell are we gonna get???

quietly wondering if Doug Pederson can work with Tua.

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:53 am

Amazing that Philbin can suck for four years, but back to back seasons over .500 and in playoff contention gets you canned.

Flores did a fine job righting the ship this year, was just a little too late in doing so.

I'm opposed to firing him now; I would have given him one more year. If it isn't to bring in Harbaugh, then this must have been a falling out between Grier and Flores, makes no sense otherwise.

Grier sure needed the 2021 draft homerun, that much is certain.

Not liking this at all and liking it even less if it means getting rid of all our 2022 and 2023 draft picks to bring in Watson and let him get sacked 70 times next year because the line still sucks.

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:54 am

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The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami.

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:54 am

mercury22nathan wrote:
JMP wrote:Oh man, this REALLY sucks.  Who the hell are we gonna get???

quietly wondering if Doug Pederson can work with Tua.

I know he could, Tua's better than Wentz.

Question is, can he work with Grier? And is he even who Ross wants?

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:55 am

JMP wrote:
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The decision to fire Flores can be summed up with one word: Relationships. His relationship with Grier and Tua had deteriorated to a pretty bad place. Along with constant staff changes, owner Steve Ross no longer saw Flores as a healthy fit in Miami.

He will likely learn that part somewhere else, like Belicheat did, and get better. Dude can coach a "D".

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Post by CarsonChris Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:56 am

I bet this has to do with Tua

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Post by CarsonChris Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:59 am

He should have been fired after losing 7 in a row.

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:59 am

HalCHorn wrote:Amazing that Philbin can suck for four years, but back to back seasons over .500 and in playoff contention gets you canned.

Flores did a fine job righting the ship this year, was just a little too late in doing so.  

I'm opposed to firing him now; I would have given him one more year.  If it isn't to bring in Harbaugh, then this must have been a falling out between Grier and Flores, makes no sense otherwise.

Grier sure needed the 2021 draft homerun, that much is certain.

Not liking this at all and liking it even less if it means getting rid of all our 2022 and 2023 draft picks to bring in Watson and let him get sacked 70 times next year because the line still sucks.

Completely agree, Hal. This team finally seemed to be headed in the right direction. Yes, there were problems - but beating the Pats 3 times in a row and winning 8 of the last 9 games should not be grounds for firing. And of course, Grier survives AGAIN.

No way Harbaugh comes here if Grier is in charge.

What a clusterfuck. This is the worst time ever to need a head coach...there is garbage out there.

Hate this move if Grier is in fact staying.


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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:00 am

Ross:

"I made a decision today to part ways with Brian Flores," Ross said in a statement released by the team. " After evaluating where we are as an organization and what we need going forward to improve, I determined that key dynamics of our football organization weren't functioning at a level I want it to be and felt that this decision was in the best interest of the Miami Dolphins. I believe we have a talented young roster in place and have the opportunity to be much better in 2022. I want to thank Brian for his hard work and wish him nothing but the best in his future."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33034467/miami-dolphins-fire-coach-brian-flores-three-seasons

power struggle and Grier won.

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:05 am

mercury22nathan wrote:Ross:

"I made a decision today to part ways with Brian Flores," Ross said in a statement released by the team. " After evaluating where we are as an organization and what we need going forward to improve, I determined that key dynamics of our football organization weren't functioning at a level I want it to be and felt that this decision was in the best interest of the Miami Dolphins. I believe we have a talented young roster in place and have the opportunity to be much better in 2022. I want to thank Brian for his hard work and wish him nothing but the best in his future."

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33034467/miami-dolphins-fire-coach-brian-flores-three-seasons

power struggle and Grier won.

Damn, Grier truly is a Teflon Don.

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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:06 am

JMP wrote:What a clusterfuck.

on this we can agree!!

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:06 am

Looking at the landscape, Pederson makes the most sense. He's a great offensive playcaller.

Unfortunately, we just gave up a great defensive playcaller.....

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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:08 am

and perhaps all those rumors of Flores being hard to get along with (all the asst. coaches he burned through), weren't just rumors.

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Post by mercury22nathan Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:10 am

HalCHorn wrote:Unfortunately, we just gave up a great defensive playcaller.....

what's better?

Flores and someone not named Tua (likely Watson) or...

Grier, Tua and an undisclosed coach?

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Post by JMP Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:11 am

HalCHorn wrote:Looking at the landscape, Pederson makes the most sense.  He's a great offensive playcaller.  

Unfortunately, we just gave up a great defensive playcaller.....

It does seem like Pederson is best available - although he clashed with his GM in Philly.

Safe to say that the D will take a big step back. But Fangio is out there...Pederson and Fangio, with Munchak on the OL, could be very interesting...

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:12 am

Also, Jim Caldwell is also great at calling a game, though he's a bit long in the tooth (66) at this point, I think he'll be a candidate.  Hey, he's 5 years younger than Belicheck.

That said, Pederson is younger and has a better record of postseason success, though both men have made it to a Super Bowl. But I think for the HC job I'd have to rank the man who won one with Nick Foles slightly ahead of the coach who lost one with Peyton.

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Post by HalCHorn Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:17 am

And I realize he just signed an extension at Ole Miss, but I still think Lane Kiffin might get a call. He loved coaching at FAU, they just couldn't compete with the SEC bucks. Dolphins certainly can.

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