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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:36 pm

So far:

OG Ereck Flowers, 3 years $30 million
LB/DE Shaq Lawson, 3 years $30 million

I'm very happy with both signings - productive players that didn't break the bank.

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:22 pm

Grier and Flores are being every productive but at the same time using their money wisely.

On the other hand I feel like people are buying into Flores coaching especially with what Miami did last year

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:30 pm

Always good to sign young, ascending players. Both Flowers and Lawson are almost 26 years old and coming off their best seasons.

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Post by white1 Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:39 pm

I wanted trenches and they are signing OL and DL, no complaints from me.
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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:45 pm

The cool thing about Lawson is I think he's got the skillset to play both DE and OLB and also rush from inside, and he is also good against the run. He could be a nice "chess piece" for the Flores defense.

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Post by white1 Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:48 pm

From Clemson too, I bet Wilkins is doing backflips!
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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:52 pm

white1 wrote:From Clemson too, I bet Wilkins is doing backflips!

Yep, and our DL coach Marion Hobby worked with both of them at Clemson. Very cool.

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:56 pm

I have a weird feeling that Miami might be trying to make this team better

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:59 pm

rightchea wrote:I have a weird feeling that Miami might be trying to make this team better

Imagine that! So cool to see that the Phins finally have a plan.

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Post by white1 Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:13 pm

We added CB Byron Jones (DAL) in what was described as making him "highest paid CB". Wow.

Also added a special teams/safety from Cincy (Clayton Fejedelem).

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:25 pm

MEGAN ARMSTRONG wrote:Former Dallas Cowboys cornerback Byron Jones has opted to sign with the Miami Dolphins in free agency, according to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport on Monday evening.

"This deal is large," Rapoport added. "Sounds like $17 [million] a year or more."

ESPN's Adam Schefter then reported that Jones' new contract will be for five years and $82.5 million with $57 million guaranteed. There will be $40 million paid out in the first two years.

The deal would become official once the new league year begins at 4 p.m. ET on Wednesday.

ESPN's Josina Anderson had reported earlier Monday that the Dolphins, New York Jets, Las Vegas Raiders and Philadelphia Eagles were among the teams that had "discussed interest" in Jones.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2873203-report-ex-cowboy-byron-jones-agrees-to-dolphins-contract-to-be-highest-paid-cb

this is crazy....Miami really trying to add players

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Post by JEGnj Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:33 pm

I'm not liking it. We were supposed to draft and build a young team not sign FA Vets to cement us as an average franchise again.
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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:48 pm

JEGnj wrote:I'm not liking it. We were supposed to draft and build a young team not sign FA Vets to cement us as an average franchise again.

Totally understand but there is no guarantee that Miami will get good players in the draft. So you find young players with proven talent (Flowers, Lawson, Jones) and mix them with rookies that will contribute around those players that you have added. This is how the FA should work. Instead of paying crazy money for players that won't help the team, pay low cost for a better return.

Jones is a very expensive part of the puzzle but I don't see it as a negative.

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 7:59 pm

WOW!!!! Grier and company are making moves to make this team competitive right now!

Jones was the definition of "shutdown corner" last season...teams literally almost never threw at him.

This is a GREAT signing and a huge boost to the secondary.

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:02 pm

JEGnj wrote:I'm not liking it. We were supposed to draft and build a young team not sign FA Vets to cement us as an average franchise again.

We are building through the draft - and we're also building through free agency by signing young, ascending players. There's a million holes on this roster and only so many draft picks. Free agency has to be part of the plan

We can't have another season where half the team is made up of undrafted rookies. Everyone wants this team to be competitive after the garbage product we saw last season. Well, we are well on our way to being competitive.

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:06 pm

per tweet

Matt Bowen wrote:On CB Byron Jones to #Dolphins...

MIA played man-coverage on 60.8% of opponent dropbacks in ‘19 (fourth most in the NFL).

That’s a fit with Jones. 6-foot-1 frame with high-end coverage traits + press-man ability.

This is why this signing makes total sense. Miami defense love to play man to man coverage and this man can handle his own.

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:07 pm

Phins sign Kyle Van Noy!!! Hell yeah!!! 4 years, $51 million.

This is a MAJOR piece for the defense...he is one of those guys that literally plays everywhere.

The Dolphins defense got a whole lot better today!

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:09 pm

rightchea wrote:per tweet

Matt Bowen wrote:On CB Byron Jones to #Dolphins...

MIA played man-coverage on 60.8% of opponent dropbacks in ‘19 (fourth most in the NFL).

That’s a fit with Jones. 6-foot-1 frame with high-end coverage traits + press-man ability.

This is why this signing makes total sense. Miami defense love to play man to man coverage and this man can handle his own.

Exactly. He is a big, physical corner and he makes a living out of taking an opponent's top receiver out of the game. This is the type of corner we needed.

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Post by JMP Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:15 pm

Phins also signed special teams ace Clayton Fejedelem. He was the Bengals' STs captain and also plays safety (but rarely played on D). Could mean the end of Walt Aikens in Miami.

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:31 pm

Really like Walt Aikens but he was never really good at Safety or CB

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Post by rightchea Mon Mar 16, 2020 9:36 pm

Just thought about this but is adding ones an option to get rid of trading Howard and picking up a DB in the draft???

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Post by CarsonChris Mon Mar 16, 2020 10:26 pm

JMP wrote:Phins sign Kyle Van Noy!!! Hell yeah!!! 4 years, $51 million.

This is a MAJOR piece for the defense...he is one of those guys that literally plays everywhere.

The Dolphins defense got a whole lot better today!

He played at my former high school! Go Lancers

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Mar 17, 2020 8:33 am

JMP wrote:WOW!!!!  Grier and company are making moves to make this team competitive right now!

Jones was the definition of "shutdown corner" last season...teams literally almost never threw at him.

This is a GREAT signing and a huge boost to the secondary.

The Jones signing may be even better than you think Very Happy

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/cornering-cornerback-market

There are only five instances in which any of these players earned above-average production in both yards per attempt and success rate during a single season -- and Byron Jones accounts for two of them. Ronald Darby and Johnathan Joseph each completed the feat in 2018, while cheap free agent Brian Poole did so in 2019. However, Jones is the only player of the four to be that productive over both seasons. Poole was awful with the Falcons in 2018 before a resurgence with the Jets in 2019. Darby, on the other hand, was a fantastic lockdown cornerback in 2018 before battling a slew of injuries through the 2019 season. Joseph just got old.

A handful of players, such as James Bradberry, scored above-average in one season and managed to be within the average range in their other season, but that's it. Nobody else among this year's free-agent cornerbacks showed top-notch play year-over-year -- at least by the numbers. Granted, this is only a two-year sample in order to represent their most recent play rather than their entire careers, but it still serves to highlight the inconsistency in coverage production from one year to the next.

Conversely, six players (Darby, Joseph, and Poole included) earned an above-average score in an area during one season, but came in below average in the other season. Six players did not earn above-average production in either area during either season. Two players (Rashaan Melvin and Jalen Mills) earned below-average production across the board for both seasons. The evidence for either inconsistent or uninspiring play is overwhelming compared to evidence that suggests any of these cornerbacks are consistently capable.

With questionable play from many of Jones' peers in this free-agency class, the former Cowboys corner is in a clear tier of his own. Not only is Jones the only free agent cornerback to post above-average success rates over each of the past two seasons, he is the only one to come in above-average in more than two of the four columns. Jones' blend of consistency and high-end production almost completely excludes him from the conversation about paying vs. drafting cornerbacks considering how sound a bet he is compared to the rest of the free-agent class. While Jones is likely to reset the cornerback market, it is rare to find a legit No. 1 cornerback with his production profile in free agency. Any team not strapped for cap space should feel good taking on the cost in exchange for the comfort to be able to allocate a first-round pick elsewhere. The real conversation about free agency vs. the draft begins once Jones is out of the picture.

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Post by white1 Tue Mar 17, 2020 9:55 am

My confidence in our front office is soaring.

Now, about that QB position... you know there is a hell of a lot of uncertainty right now. Brady is moving on (as of this morning) but no one knows where yet. Brees is unsigned. Bridgewater still out there. Rivers still out there. Will the Fins upgrade the veteran QB over Fitz, and still plan to draft a rookie while letting him sit a year or two?

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Post by JMP Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:30 am

white1 wrote:My confidence in our front office is soaring.

Now, about that QB position... you know there is a hell of a lot of uncertainty right now.  Brady is moving on (as of this morning) but no one knows where yet.  Brees is unsigned.  Bridgewater still out there.  Rivers still out there.  Will the Fins upgrade the veteran QB over Fitz, and still plan to draft a rookie while letting him sit a year or two?


Brees just re-upped with the Saints.

The Phins will stick with Fitz this season and draft their franchise QB. No way are they going to pay $30 million to Rivers, and Bridgewater isn't going to sign on as a one-year stopgap.

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