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Post by JMP Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:43 am

CarsonChris wrote:Any word on running back Jordan Scarlett?

I've seen his name mentioned a few times, but nothing really of note. Sounds like just a camp body at this point, but there's still time.


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Post by DolFan 316 Fri Aug 06, 2021 9:48 am

Wait just a gosh darn minute...you mean to tell me there are TWO Scarletts on the team??? Shocked Shocked Shocked

Now my brain's going to hurt for the rest of the day...

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Post by CarsonChris Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:50 am

Jordan Scarlett works with Tua's strength trainer.

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Post by JMP Fri Aug 06, 2021 12:48 pm

DolFan 316 wrote:you mean to tell me there are TWO Scarletts on the team??? Shocked Shocked Shocked


Pretty impressive job by Grier...not only identifying TWO Scarletts, but actually being able sign both of them! jocolor

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Post by JMP Tue Aug 17, 2021 11:12 am

Hunter Long back at practice today, doing some individual drills.

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Post by JMP Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:00 pm

Practice is just a light walk-through today.

Eich is back and playing RT, with Kindley at LG. Jesse Davis is absent because his wife just had a baby.

Needham practicing both nickle and boundary.

Waddle, Grant and Perry all fielding punts today - and both Grant and Perry had drops.


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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:29 pm

As injury prone as seemingly all the WRs are, if Flores actually has Waddle returning kicks/punts, it's a sure sign that Grier's insanity is rubbing off on him pale

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Post by JMP Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:47 pm

DolFan 316 wrote:As injury prone as seemingly all the WRs are, if Flores actually has Waddle returning kicks/punts, it's a sure sign that Grier's insanity is rubbing off on him pale

Waddle will definitely be returning punts - that was a given with whoever drafted him. He's too good to not use him in that role. I think he'll share the punt duties with Grant.

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Post by white1 Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:53 pm

I think Grant is a likely trade away player. I thought maybe we would get a OT or OG in return. More likely, a draft pick.

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Post by DolFan 316 Tue Aug 17, 2021 2:57 pm

white1 wrote:I think Grant is a likely trade away player.  I thought maybe we would get a OT or OG in return.  More likely, a draft pick.

I will be furious if Grant is traded for yet another O-lineman who can't cut it. You've been warned.

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Post by JMP Tue Aug 17, 2021 3:13 pm

I initially thought Grant would be cut/traded, but I now believe he's a near-lock to make the roster. The team clearly likes him and they are giving him lots of reps and opportunities. It seems to me that he is part of the plan.

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 9:51 am

Yesterday's joint practice with the Falcons had a starting OL of:

LT Jackson
LG Eichenberg
C Dieter
RG Hunt
RT Davis

Too early to say for sure, but this seems like it could be the starting OL moving forward. My guess is Kindley becomes the extra lineman when the Phins use their 'jumbo' short-yardage package, but that's just a guess.

I know Dolfans everywhere are in panic mode about the OL, but IMO this has the makings of a solid line if everyone continues to develop.

Sounds like Hunt is playing really well and Dieter is holding his own, and we know that Davis is dependable if unspectacular. We really need to see improvement from Jackson, and Eich will likely have some rookie growing pains. But overall, I do think this line could have a bright future and I don't think it's time for doom and gloom forecasts.


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Post by white1 Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:04 am

Agree.

Jackson seems to be struggling the most, but he's also the youngest (I think) and we knew he was a "project" when we drafted him.

I really hope he pans out.
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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:25 am

white1 wrote:Agree.  

Jackson seems to be struggling the most, but he's also the youngest (I think) and we knew he was a "project" when we drafted him.

I really hope he pans out.  

What's interesting about Jackson is, he doesn't give up a lot of sacks. Only 4 last season, which for a rookie LT is pretty damn phenomenal, and none against the Bears. Now, he does give up too many pressures - but they're not translating to sacks, which is at least something somewhat positive.

To me, it seems to be an issue of pure strength. Jackson doesn't get beat early - he can get his hands on a lineman right away, and he does have the quick feet to position himself well. But, it seems he can't sustain the blocks and too often gets pushed back. That, to me, shows a lack of functional strength. We do have to keep in mind that he's only 22, and basically had a whole year where he couldn't do much working out after he donated bone marrow to his sister.

All this to say that if the issue is one of strength, that is something Jackson can work on. I do not look at him and see a lost cause. I see a lineman that has good technique, good feet, and a lot of athleticism. If he can continue to get functionally stronger, I see no reason why he can't become a very good/great LT.

Consider these stats from 2020:
--Jets rookie LT Mekhi Becton allowed 7 sacks on 691 snaps, which works out to a sack every 99 snaps.
--Dolphins rookie LT Austin Jackson allowed 4 sacks on 848 snaps, which works out to a sack every 212 snaps.

Yet the "expert analysts" in the media talk about Becton like he's the second coming of Orlando Pace, and they completely dismiss Austin Jackson.

(And for the record, the first LT drafted that year was Andrew Thomas, #4 overall - who performed worse than both Becton and Jackson with 10 sacks on 978 snaps - a sack every 98 snaps).

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:53 am

Some injured players getting closer...

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Preston Williams and Elandon Roberts are dressed and thus coming off PUP. Baker is here and dressed after leaving with trainer late yesterday.
10:29 AM · Aug 19, 2021

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Hunter Long is dressed and catching some passes with the other tight ends
10:25 AM · Aug 19, 2021

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:01 am

Eric Rowe was apparently very good against Kyle Pitts yesterday, and that is continuing today so far.

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:04 am

JMP wrote:Yesterday's joint practice with the Falcons had a starting OL of:

LT Jackson
LG Eichenberg
C Dieter
RG Hunt
RT Davis

Too early to say for sure, but this seems like it could be the starting OL moving forward.  


And shortly after I post this, I read that Kindley starts today's practice as the starting LG! I guess we have a battle going on at that position!

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:10 am

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And now Hunter Long has a catch from Jacoby Brissett for about 15 – on the play, Liam Eichenberg stonewalled Dante Fowler Jr.
11:06 AM · Aug 19, 2021

Eich working as second-team RT right now.

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:14 am

TE Adam Shaheen kicked ass yesterday, scoring 3 TDs. Sounds like he's doing great today too.

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Austin Jackson just pancakes Fowler in O-line vs D-line one on ones.
11:13 AM · Aug 19, 2021

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:30 am

And, another WR goes down:

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Lynn Bowden writhing in discomfort after a catch, being attended to by trainers as he lies on the ground. Dolphins already without 5 WRs.
11:18 AM · Aug 19, 2021

Some people are saying it looks like a hamstring injury.

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Post by JMP Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:43 am

Salvon Ahmed continuing to make big plays in the passing game.

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Another Jevon Holland interception - fourth in two weeks of practice
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Tua throws 6th pick in 15 practices in 11 on 11s this camp. To Isaiah Oliver.
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Hunter Long having a great, active practice and moving well. Just made another catch.
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