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Post by JMP Mon Jul 24, 2023 1:01 pm

Let's use this thread for all camp news.

I'll start:

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Great news!

Per @caplannfl
S Brandon Jones, who suffered a left ACL injury last season, “is expected to be back on the field practicing with his teammates this week!” He could make an appearance as early “as Wednesday” during the team's first practice, barring any setbacks

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Post by JMP Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:26 pm

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With Tyreek Hill settling his civil dispute and offensive lineman Connor Williams reportedly deciding he will be at camp after an offseason contract issue, the #Dolphins apparently are settling all distractions prior to opening of training camp.

3:55 PM · Jul 24, 2023

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Post by white1 Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:39 am

Buckle up gentlemen. Here we go. 2023 will be one hell of a ride.
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Post by JMP Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:16 pm

white1 wrote:Buckle up gentlemen.  Here we go.  2023 will be one hell of a ride.

The AFC is insane this year...just loaded with potentially good/great teams. I think we stack up well against anyone, but just like every team in the league we MUST avoid injuries at key positions in order to stay in the fight. As I've said before, some really strong teams are going to be on the outside looking in at season's end - it's going to be a real battle.

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Post by JMP Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:25 pm

I love this:

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Dolphins CB Xavien Howard on people who are sleeping on him in 2023: “Fuck ‘em.”

11:36 AM · Jul 25, 2023

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Post by mercury22nathan Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:35 am

JMP wrote:...we MUST avoid injuries at key positions in order to stay in the fight.

and just like that, it [could] all comes crashing down.

As veterans reported to training camp Tuesday, the Dolphins made a series of roster moves, placing offensive linemen Terron Armstead and Isaiah Wynn and tight end Tanner Conner on the active/physically unable to perform list.

Armstead told reporters in January that he was advised to undergo season-ending surgery after his toe injury but opted against it.

“I tore my foot Week 1,” he said. “Potentially season-ending injury. Played with it. Played the 13 games. Still decided not to get the surgery in the offseason because it’s a 10-month recovery.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article277648128.html

and while i appreciate his desire to gut it through for the team, in the long run at 32, its not gonna get any better. do tears heal themselves (i guess that depends on whether it was complete or not)? we may be looking at a season with Armstead missing a significant number of games.

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Post by JMP Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:34 am

The PUP list at this point doesn't mean much - players can come off it at any time and it has nothing to do with final roster status. I'd rather have a vet like Armstead ease into the season...I already know what he can do. No problem giving him additional rest.

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Post by JEGnj Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:27 am

What's the deal with the LB we drafted last year and got hurt for the year?
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Post by JMP Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:31 pm

mercury22nathan wrote:

and just like that, it [could] all comes crashing down.

As veterans reported to training camp Tuesday, the Dolphins made a series of roster moves, placing offensive linemen Terron Armstead and Isaiah Wynn and tight end Tanner Conner on the active/physically unable to perform list.

Armstead told reporters in January that he was advised to undergo season-ending surgery after his toe injury but opted against it.

“I tore my foot Week 1,” he said. “Potentially season-ending injury. Played with it. Played the 13 games. Still decided not to get the surgery in the offseason because it’s a 10-month recovery.”

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article277648128.html

and while i appreciate his desire to gut it through for the team, in the long run at 32, its not gonna get any better.  do tears heal themselves (i guess that depends on whether it was complete or not)?  we may be looking at a season with Armstead missing a significant number of games.

From what I'm seeing, Armstead is on the PUP due to a knee scope he recently had. Just a clean-up procedure - nothing significant and he should be on the field soon. I have not heard an update on his foot.

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Post by JMP Wed Jul 26, 2023 2:34 pm

JEGnj wrote:What's the deal with the LB we drafted last year and got hurt for the year?

Are you talking about Channing Tindall? He actually did play a bit on special teams last season. I haven't heard a thing about him yet...probably not a good sign.

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Post by CarsonChris Wed Jul 26, 2023 3:16 pm

4.3 40 Tanner is out? Isn't he our only pass catching TE?

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Post by JEGnj Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:33 pm

Yeah Channing Tindall was the big move by Grier to fix LB.
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Post by JMP Wed Jul 26, 2023 4:47 pm

CarsonChris wrote:4.3 40 Tanner is out? Isn't he our only pass catching TE?

He'll be competing for a spot. But if rookie draft pick Elijah Higgins shows anything I think he takes the last TE spot on the final roster. Tanner probably lands on the practice squad in that scenario.

If I had to guess, I think veterans Smythe, Saubert and Kroft will all make the roster, with Higgins sticking as the #4 if we carry that many.

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Post by white1 Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:20 am

Are you talking about Channing Tindall? He actually did play a bit on special teams last season. I haven't heard a thing about him yet...probably not a good sign.

One of the beat writers observed on day 1, and it wasn't positive. IIRC (too lazy to look up where I read it) these were the points:
- With ILB depth limited, tons of opportunity right now for a player like Tindall to shine.
- In drills, the observer noted how slow he was to react to plays.
- Additionally, the observer noted how many "false steps" he takes.

Sounds like a good athlete by the measurables but also who, as a linebacker, is not instinctive, raw and will need lots of coaching. He might pan out or might not.
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Post by JMP Thu Jul 27, 2023 9:14 am

white1 wrote:
Are you talking about Channing Tindall? He actually did play a bit on special teams last season. I haven't heard a thing about him yet...probably not a good sign.

One of the beat writers observed on day 1, and it wasn't positive.  IIRC (too lazy to look up where I read it) these were the points:
- With ILB depth limited, tons of opportunity right now for a player like Tindall to shine.
- In drills, the observer noted how slow he was to react to plays.
- Additionally, the observer noted how many "false steps" he takes.

Sounds like a good athlete by the measurables but also who, as a linebacker, is not instinctive, raw and will need lots of coaching.  He might pan out or might not.  

I read that too. Sounds like a practice squad candidate at best right now. I don't think his draft status will save him.

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Post by white1 Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:18 pm

I just read on twitter Ramsey hurt knee in practice today - left on cart. Everyone worried prob will get update tomorrow from coach.
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Post by finskev Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:08 pm

Wow, Second Day of Practice and someone is down, LB who is gone for the Year is Zeke Vandenburgh UDFA Illinois State. Hopefully nothing Torn keep Fingers, Toes , Nuts Crossed, Maybe Not Nuts. Painful

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Post by JMP Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:16 pm

white1 wrote:I just read on twitter Ramsey hurt knee in practice today - left on cart. Everyone worried prob will get update tomorrow from coach.

FUCK!!!! Pray it is nothing major....

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Post by mercury22nathan Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:38 pm

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white1 wrote:I just read on twitter Ramsey hurt knee in practice today - left on cart. Everyone worried prob will get update tomorrow from coach.

FUCK!!!!  Pray it is nothing major....

how it happened...

After a rep in team drills where it appeared his feet got tangled up with wide receiver Tyreek Hill, Ramsey limped to the sideline, clutched at his left knee and went down to the ground.

He was attended to by trainers, and a cart was brought onto the field to transport him inside the team’s facilities as practice wrapped up. Ramsey was helped up as the cart arrived for him, but he was cautious to take any steps or put pressure on his left leg and hopped onto the vehicle using his right leg.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2023/07/27/dolphins-star-cornerback-jalen-ramsey-carted-off-practice-field-after-grabbing-knee/

why can't this team ever have good luck?

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Post by white1 Thu Jul 27, 2023 3:04 pm

It's scary right now, but too early to panic.

One anecdote: Hill was talking to team mates, McDaniel while he was being seen on the field. Later, Kohou said "oh he'll be fine" so maybe initial look it did not appear to be a bad injury.
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Post by JMP Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:31 pm

white1 wrote:It's scary right now, but too early to panic.

One anecdote:  Hill was talking to team mates, McDaniel while he was being seen on the field.  Later, Kohou said "oh he'll be fine" so maybe initial look it did not appear to be a bad injury.

Let's hope it's just something minor. The football gods owe us a break or three!

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Post by white1 Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:33 pm

Could be far, far worse.

I just read Burrow was carted off with a calf injury. Makes me worry he tore achilles or the muscle.
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Post by JMP Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:37 pm

Ramsey MRI tonight, so hopefully we hear something by morning.

white1 wrote:I just read Burrow was carted off with a calf injury. Makes me worry he tore achilles or the muscle.

Wow, hope he's OK. I hate all these injuries to non-Jets players. Oops, sorry...that last part just slipped out. Wink

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Post by white1 Thu Jul 27, 2023 5:40 pm

I just saw the Burrow video. Non-contact. He scrambled out of the pocket and pulled up after a few running steps.
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Post by JMP Thu Jul 27, 2023 6:06 pm

white1 wrote:I just saw the Burrow video.  Non-contact.  He scrambled out of the pocket and pulled up after a few running steps.

Ooohhh...non-contact is usually a real bad sign. Really hope he's OK.

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