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Post by HalCHorn Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:23 pm

Zaven Collins to Arizona, so we are guaranteed a top 2 RB on the board. Also still have Darrisaw and Owusu-Koramoah. Either would be a strong pick also IMO (Hunt-Darrisaw on the right side? Intriguing).

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 pm

CarsonChris wrote:I'm calling it. Lawrence wins the battle of the babes tonight. Jones comes in at 2

Yep,  Lawrence wins in a landslide!

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Post by CarsonChris Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 pm

Koramoah to Miami?

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:25 pm

HalCHorn wrote:Zaven Collins to Arizona, so we are guaranteed a top 2 RB on the board.  Also still have Darrisaw and Owusu-Koramoah.  Either would be a strong pick also IMO (Hunt-Darrisaw on the right side?  Intriguing).

A lot of good options for sure!

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:27 pm

Trevon Moehrig at safety would be interesting too at 18...probably too high, but helluva player.

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Post by HalCHorn Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:27 pm

Leatherwood at 17 seems like a reach to me. Good player though.

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Post by HalCHorn Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:28 pm

Ok, we could actually trade down a few spots here and I'd be OK with it. There's 4 players I'd be really happy with.

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:28 pm

Leatherwood to Raiders.  Alabama owning the draft.

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Post by HalCHorn Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:31 pm

Jaelen Phillips's concussions really scare me. Uneasy with the pick, put it this way he wasn't one of the four I mentioned.

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Post by CarsonChris Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:32 pm

The injured player syndrome

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Post by HalCHorn Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:35 pm

Long way to go but I'm iffy so far. Would have preferred a difference making RB and actually think Owusu-Koramoah would have helped this D more.

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Post by DolFan 316 Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:35 pm

WOW did Grier fuck this up. About as bad a first round as he possibly could've had. There are no words. SMH.

WE have the right coach, but with Grier as GM he's basically entering every fight blindfolded and with one arm tied behind his back. Just NO chance of winning anything substantial with a player evaluation process as severely flawed as this. Just what the hell is Grier's obsession with injury-prone players anyway???

As is the case any other year, literally all of us could've drafted better than this team in real life. It never fails.

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Post by DolFan 316 Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:36 pm

HalCHorn wrote:Long way to go but I'm iffy so far.  Would have preferred a difference making RB and actually think Owusu-Koramoah would have helped this D more.  

I think you may have to make room at the top of your all-time worst Fins drafts ever list. I'm totally serious. To have this much draft capital and blow it like this... Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

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Post by Degarmo Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:37 pm

I like Phillips, but the concussions, man, that's a hard sell.

I could have sworn we were going to go with Harris or Etienne there. Maybe they're targeting one of the NC kids in the 2nd or 3rd.

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Post by DolFan 316 Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:40 pm

This time I really am out. I'm not even angry anymore, I've crossed over to the other side and now I'm just...numb. Won't bother paying attention to the rest of this draft now that I know how it'll go.

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:46 pm

Wow!  Surprise pick!  I am a big Jae Phillips fan.  The concussions are of course a huge concern, but I had him as a sure-fire top 15 pick.  He fits the profile for what the Phins want...he's huge, excellent run stopper and has high-end pass rush ability.  And...he's a Cane!!!

I really, really wanted a RB there, but I'll take a pass rusher.  Filled a need with a very good player, and good value at 18.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:48 pm

JMP wrote:Wow!  Surprise pick!  I am a big Jae Phillips fan.  The concussions are of course a huge concern, but I had him as a sure-fire top 15 pick.  He fits the profile for what the Phins want...he's huge, excellent run stopper and has high-end pass rush ability.  And...he's a Cane!!!

I really, really wanted a RB there, but I'll take a pass rusher.  Filled a need with a very good player, and good value at 18.

The concussions are my only real concern, because I think he can be a beast in the NFL, but one bell ringer and he may be done for good.

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:54 pm

Two picks, two home run swings.  Again, time will tell if it's strikeout or homerun, but Grier is taking big cuts tonight.  

Fastest offensive player, top pass rusher.  Not how I saw it playing out and not what I would have done, but I can't complain.  Taking shots at greatness is never a bad thing.

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:55 pm

Degarmo wrote:
JMP wrote:Wow!  Surprise pick!  I am a big Jae Phillips fan.  The concussions are of course a huge concern, but I had him as a sure-fire top 15 pick.  He fits the profile for what the Phins want...he's huge, excellent run stopper and has high-end pass rush ability.  And...he's a Cane!!!

I really, really wanted a RB there, but I'll take a pass rusher.  Filled a need with a very good player, and good value at 18.

The concussions are my only real concern, because I think he can be a beast in the NFL, but one bell ringer and he may be done for good.

Yep.  The Phins apparently felt comfortable enough with his medicals to take a chance...we'll see.  But yes, he has beast potential in this defense.  Could be a colossal upgrade over Shaq Lawson!

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:58 pm

Well, everybody wanted impact.  We just got two impact players.  These guys are both game-changers.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:03 pm

I'm with you, JMP, at the absolute least, they swung for the fences tonight.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:05 pm

There are a lot of good value picks later on in this draft, including some real interesting prospects, like that kid I had as our 7th round pick in my last mock, Chris Garrett. I think we can get a solid RB in the next round or two and still manage to address the OL.

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Post by Degarmo Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:08 pm

Who else can we pick named Jaelan or Jaylen?

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:09 pm

See if Steelers take Etienne or Harris here... they could also go OL.

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Post by JMP Thu Apr 29, 2021 11:11 pm

Degarmo wrote:Who else can we pick named Jaelan or Jaylen?

Damn, I didn't even realize that.  Laughing Laughing 

I'm so used to yelling "Let's go Jae!" during Canes games, I almost forgot he's a Jaelan!  LOL

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